@Shan will the campaign track purchase at a discount happen this month? In other words, should we wait to purchase until it gets discounted in the store, or will it not go live till next month
Easier to use a site builder than to make changes to your own game, I guess.
They could have made changes in game. This is about trying to cut out Google/Apple. There is no one taking a 30% cut on their own store. And the credit card fees and hosting costs will be a fraction of that.
This is WRG following in the footsteps of Epic (Fortnight).
I hope WRG have read the rulings of Epic Games v. Apple.
I think this is good, but I am not a US legal expert, and I have very limited UK legal knowledge.
In fairness, there are only 32 reviews there for a company that's handled large accounts since 2010. Of those, only four were posted since early August. That was when the CEO notoriously fired 150 people because their data monitoring reported them as unproductive.
The bottom of the store page has a link for customer service and it's the game's Zendesk. I assume any disputes will be worked out in-house, as they have been all along. If so, that alleviates any reflexive jitters for me, as I've been largely satisfied by customer service to date for my periodic dilemmas.
Thank you very much for that perspective. Greatly appreciated.
@Shan will the campaign track purchase at a discount happen this month? In other words, should we wait to purchase until it gets discounted in the store, or will it not go live till next month
Enjoy the discount of 1,24 $ 🤗
It will cost me more from the WRG store, than from Amazon.
Currently £18.60 from Amazon, and £19.66 from the WRG store. If I used Amazon coins I could save even more. On Google Play it is £22.99
@Shan will the campaign track purchase at a discount happen this month? In other words, should we wait to purchase until it gets discounted in the store, or will it not go live till next month
Enjoy the discount of 1,24 $ 🤗
What a bargain. WRG wasted how much time putting together a system to provide offers that are at best underwhelming while not putting in sufficient effort to ensure that the existing game ran smoothly?
@Shan will the campaign track purchase at a discount happen this month? In other words, should we wait to purchase until it gets discounted in the store, or will it not go live till next month
Enjoy the discount of 1,24 $ 🤗
It will cost me more from the WRG store, than from Amazon.
Currently £18.60 from Amazon, and £19.66 from the WRG store. If I used Amazon coins I could save even more. On Google Play it is £22.99
All of this. I don't mind the existence of the store; I understand the economics in play. But if you want us to actually use it (a) there needs to be a better user experience than making people dig up their DBID and (b) the prices should actually be, you know, cheaper so there's motivation to take those extra steps. I figured the campaign might be $20 when it went live on the web store; I actually laughed when I saw how underwhelming the discount was.
I don't know if it's charges taxes but it is currently up for the monthly campaign and is about the same as Amazon who does charge taxes but the Amazon coins discount is about the same as their store.
Mind showing your math? With Amazon coins if you go all in at the $500 level you can save 20%. The campaign is only a 5% discount in the web store. And for that minimal of a discount I'd rather just keep buying through Google where at least I'll get reward points for the Play store and not have to worry about looking up my DBID each time.
Where is the +500 you get when purchasing in-game? I already get VIP bonus no matter based on how much I am spending. For a $1 discount and then not getting that extra 500 I would rather buy in-game and continue to let Apple take 30%.
The bungles are exactly the same, with a discount. The bonus Dilithium you see mentioned when looking at those bundles in game, is the VIP Dilithium bonus corresponding to your VIP level
@Shan will the campaign track purchase at a discount happen this month? In other words, should we wait to purchase until it gets discounted in the store, or will it not go live till next month
Yes, the discount for the campaign Ultimate track starts with the new campaign.
It was visible on the webstore
The store does not even show the campaign in german. Even with VPN I cannot reach the genuine english page. Not that I would buy it there, as this meant missing out on the VIP-dil obviously.
Overall the site is pathetic.
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@Shan will the campaign track purchase at a discount happen this month? In other words, should we wait to purchase until it gets discounted in the store, or will it not go live till next month
Yes, the discount for the campaign Ultimate track starts with the new campaign.
It was visible on the webstore
To be fair to GTMET, they asked before Reset, and it went live with the new Campaign. The announcement only said it was "Not yet live".
For me, I have to decide if the extra Play Points being lost is worth the amount of the discount. At four times Play Points, when that happens, it gives me a $ worth of Play Points. 100 Play Points equals $1 in the Play Store and in games. I actually use that in games towards the end of the month. One game I play gives you a lot of bonus stuff for the first purchase Sunday night. {Which is their Monday Reset.} A $0.99 purchase qualifies.
Since the discount is more than a $, it might be worth not getting the Play Points, especially when it is not 4x the Points. But, then there is the other issue. What really makes the webstore feel "rushed out"? The fact that we need our DBID and the ability to copy it easily in-game was not live before the Store was.....
"The truth is like a lion; you don't have to defend it. Let it loose; it will defend itself."
@Shan will the campaign track purchase at a discount happen this month? In other words, should we wait to purchase until it gets discounted in the store, or will it not go live till next month
Enjoy the discount of 1,24 $ 🤗
What a bargain. WRG wasted how much time putting together a system to provide offers that are at best underwhelming while not putting in sufficient effort to ensure that the existing game ran smoothly?
Profits are definitey what drives a company, and in this case it looks like they are hoping to cut out the middle man and take home a bigger chunk of the pie.
I think the whales will use this site exclusively but for people who only buy every now and again it will be hard to beat the convenience of the in game purchases.
But none of this should be surprising. Offer wall was all about getting money from a third party in exchange for our time watching their ads to get dilithium.
The third campaign track was all about trying to increase the monthly subscription fee for campaigns.
The new ten day card for retrieval fuel is also geared towards trying to have a steady and increased drain on players funds.
I can totally understand that they need to have profits to jeep the lights on, but the end result of all of these efforts is that many of the games resources are now more common and have less value. Thats why it takes more resources to compete and place in events, even though the playerbase is decreasing.
Anyway, end result of this new website is that they might make 30% more money off the 5% of the players in this game that are regular spenders or whales, and they might get a little extra cash here and there from other players.
Hopefully the website exclusive crew offers dosnt totally break the game. Like, heres an exclusive offer for the new best card in the game, $29.99.
@Shan will the campaign track purchase at a discount happen this month? In other words, should we wait to purchase until it gets discounted in the store, or will it not go live till next month
Enjoy the discount of 1,24 $ 🤗
What a bargain. WRG wasted how much time putting together a system to provide offers that are at best underwhelming while not putting in sufficient effort to ensure that the existing game ran smoothly?
I dunno. I think prioritizing finding a way to keep from forfeiting 30% of the company's revenue stream to Google at a time when customers' food, gas, and shelter budgets are depleting their pixels budgets was probably the right call. Besides, it's unlikely the same developers who work on the improvements players like us want suspended their work to be the ones to set up this store.
I understand the reasoning of bypassing the 3rd party fees and getting more from purchases, but imo you just destroyed the integrity and the reason for playing this game as it was meant. Rankings just lost all meaning and has become pay to get reward. This was a horrible decision and one that will ultimately change the enjoyment of this game for the long timers. You just minimized all our hard accomplishments with this. Not trying to be mean but just giving my criticism and opinion.
I understand the reasoning of bypassing the 3rd party fees and getting more from purchases, but imo you just destroyed the integrity and the reason for playing this game as it was meant. Rankings just lost all meaning and has become pay to get reward. This was a horrible decision and one that will ultimately change the enjoyment of this game for the long timers. You just minimized all our hard accomplishments with this. Not trying to be mean but just giving my criticism and opinion.
If the third parties are taking 30%, might have been better player good will to sell items directly from their store, but marked down 15%. They still get back half of what third party services were taking, and the 15% lower price would encourage buying.
EXAMPLE: Buying a $10 item from third party, they get $7 and third party gets $3.
Direct sell: Sell Item for $8.50. They get $8.50 straight up and the player pays $8.50, saving $1.50.
"The truth is like a lion; you don't have to defend it. Let it loose; it will defend itself."
Where is the +500 you get when purchasing in-game? I already get VIP bonus no matter based on how much I am spending. For a $1 discount and then not getting that extra 500 I would rather buy in-game and continue to let Apple take 30%.
The bungles are exactly the same, with a discount. The bonus Dilithium you see mentioned when looking at those bundles in game, is the VIP Dilithium bonus corresponding to your VIP level
Thanks for the clarification. Granted, I just came back to playing the game after 2.5 years and some things are still rusty on the brain.
But $1 savings out of $20 is only a 5% savings when Apple and Google take 30%. I understand there is still a cost to running the website and fees associated with credit cards. If there was an additional saving for those that use debit cards or who link a bank account it would sweeten the deal for me. I just don't find 5% worth getting on my computer or tablet to make that purchase. Easier to just buy it in-game.
Use amazon coins (on amazon devices only) and you can get similar (or greater discounts) depending on the size of the coin package you buy.
Getting a better deal by the size of the package…I’m sorry but isn’t that how the world works lol (here comes my ban) -.-
I understand the reasoning of bypassing the 3rd party fees and getting more from purchases, but imo you just destroyed the integrity and the reason for playing this game as it was meant. Rankings just lost all meaning and has become pay to get reward. This was a horrible decision and one that will ultimately change the enjoyment of this game for the long timers. You just minimized all our hard accomplishments with this. Not trying to be mean but just giving my criticism and opinion.
If the third parties are taking 30%, might have been better player good will to sell items directly from their store, but marked down 15%. They still get back half of what third party services were taking, and the 15% lower price would encourage buying.
EXAMPLE: Buying a $10 item from third party, they get $7 and third party gets $3.
Direct sell: Sell Item for $8.50. They get $8.50 straight up and the player pays $8.50, saving $1.50.
I think they are talking about the ability to bulk buy chrons, 62,500 at a time
I understand the reasoning of bypassing the 3rd party fees and getting more from purchases, but imo you just destroyed the integrity and the reason for playing this game as it was meant. Rankings just lost all meaning and has become pay to get reward. This was a horrible decision and one that will ultimately change the enjoyment of this game for the long timers. You just minimized all our hard accomplishments with this. Not trying to be mean but just giving my criticism and opinion.
If the third parties are taking 30%, might have been better player good will to sell items directly from their store, but marked down 15%. They still get back half of what third party services were taking, and the 15% lower price would encourage buying.
EXAMPLE: Buying a $10 item from third party, they get $7 and third party gets $3.
Direct sell: Sell Item for $8.50. They get $8.50 straight up and the player pays $8.50, saving $1.50.
If that’s what they were doing, that would be reasonable. Instead, they took the $10 item, discounted it to $9.50 and pocketed the extra $2.50 with their new partner. Given WRG’s lack of dedication to quality, buying from the webstore seems to be a disaster waiting to happen.
The events are a big part of the game, it’s fun to compete in the events. I’m afraid with more constant availability of offers and chrons and dilithium that the dynamics for the events will change and it will lose a lot of the reasons that make it enjoyable.
I understand the reasoning of bypassing the 3rd party fees and getting more from purchases, but imo you just destroyed the integrity and the reason for playing this game as it was meant. Rankings just lost all meaning and has become pay to get reward. This was a horrible decision and one that will ultimately change the enjoyment of this game for the long timers. You just minimized all our hard accomplishments with this. Not trying to be mean but just giving my criticism and opinion.
This game has been P2W from the start. Look at faction events, you can't win without dumping a ton of DIL to speedup shuttles.
And for all other events the limiting factor at the top of the leaderboard is time. F2P players have won galaxy and skirmish events. Plenty of players have more than enough chrons/supplies to win. The question is who is willing to spend 96 hours straight clicking. Nothing this store has done has changed that.
Where is the +500 you get when purchasing in-game? I already get VIP bonus no matter based on how much I am spending. For a $1 discount and then not getting that extra 500 I would rather buy in-game and continue to let Apple take 30%.
The bungles are exactly the same, with a discount. The bonus Dilithium you see mentioned when looking at those bundles in game, is the VIP Dilithium bonus corresponding to your VIP level
Thanks for the clarification. Granted, I just came back to playing the game after 2.5 years and some things are still rusty on the brain.
But $1 savings out of $20 is only a 5% savings when Apple and Google take 30%. I understand there is still a cost to running the website and fees associated with credit cards. If there was an additional saving for those that use debit cards or who link a bank account it would sweeten the deal for me. I just don't find 5% worth getting on my computer or tablet to make that purchase. Easier to just buy it in-game.
Use amazon coins (on amazon devices only) and you can get similar (or greater discounts) depending on the size of the coin package you buy.
🤐🤐🤐🤐🤐🤐🤐 dont advertise that. They will cut off the amazon coin store. 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Honestly, having exclusive crew in this outside store limiting the choices of where and how to spend or not, is really a slap in the face to all players. Veteran players who see the game evolve over time are not at all happy. Have paid the most cumulatively wherever they make purchases that feels safe or accessible. Now everyone must share DBID, e-mail, and financial info with a 3rd party to get exclusive crew??????? This is most distressing.
I use amazon exclusively not only for the discounts but because i dont online share financial info. Or sign up for multiple gaming sites, or give my email often.
Now im supposed to also give them my DBID along with everything???
Hey WRG…… ????? I kindly suggest you re-evaluate that. (limiting crew cards, in a card collecting game to a particular purchase “here” only or dont get one,) exclusive crew in this store only will bring on serious pitchforks.
So all the while the game and every event now is glitching or breaking down you guys are working on discounted purchases and limiting crew cads?????
Oh and also, how many chrons you can purchase in bundles makes no difference if you cant use them because the event broke.
I understand the reasoning of bypassing the 3rd party fees and getting more from purchases, but imo you just destroyed the integrity and the reason for playing this game as it was meant. Rankings just lost all meaning and has become pay to get reward. This was a horrible decision and one that will ultimately change the enjoyment of this game for the long timers. You just minimized all our hard accomplishments with this. Not trying to be mean but just giving my criticism and opinion.
If someone is willing to spend 475 $ on 62500 chrons, which is barely enough for a single Skirmish 1st place, they have my blessing.
/edit: Buying the legendary event crew straight is much cheaper.
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I understand the reasoning of bypassing the 3rd party fees and getting more from purchases, but imo you just destroyed the integrity and the reason for playing this game as it was meant. Rankings just lost all meaning and has become pay to get reward. This was a horrible decision and one that will ultimately change the enjoyment of this game for the long timers. You just minimized all our hard accomplishments with this. Not trying to be mean but just giving my criticism and opinion.
If the third parties are taking 30%, might have been better player good will to sell items directly from their store, but marked down 15%. They still get back half of what third party services were taking, and the 15% lower price would encourage buying.
EXAMPLE: Buying a $10 item from third party, they get $7 and third party gets $3.
Direct sell: Sell Item for $8.50. They get $8.50 straight up and the player pays $8.50, saving $1.50.
I think they are talking about the ability to bulk buy chrons, 62,500 at a time
I sincerely doubt that the third parties are only taking 30% for one thing out of all the stuff they sell. That is what I was talking about.
"The truth is like a lion; you don't have to defend it. Let it loose; it will defend itself."
I understand the reasoning of bypassing the 3rd party fees and getting more from purchases, but imo you just destroyed the integrity and the reason for playing this game as it was meant. Rankings just lost all meaning and has become pay to get reward. This was a horrible decision and one that will ultimately change the enjoyment of this game for the long timers. You just minimized all our hard accomplishments with this. Not trying to be mean but just giving my criticism and opinion.
If the third parties are taking 30%, might have been better player good will to sell items directly from their store, but marked down 15%. They still get back half of what third party services were taking, and the 15% lower price would encourage buying.
EXAMPLE: Buying a $10 item from third party, they get $7 and third party gets $3.
Direct sell: Sell Item for $8.50. They get $8.50 straight up and the player pays $8.50, saving $1.50.
I think they are talking about the ability to bulk buy chrons, 62,500 at a time
I sincerely doubt that the third parties are only taking 30% for one thing out of all the stuff they sell. That is what I was talking about.
I agree with you there: the 3rd parties are getting their cut no matter what. So is Paramount/CBS.
The ability for people to bulk buy dil and chrons runs the risk of breaking events. People who take the time to gather resources have a much higher risk of seeing their work be undermined by someone who’s willing to spend their life savings on. That was Gandozer’s complaint and what Princess Uhura was responding to.
I understand the reasoning of bypassing the 3rd party fees and getting more from purchases, but imo you just destroyed the integrity and the reason for playing this game as it was meant. Rankings just lost all meaning and has become pay to get reward. This was a horrible decision and one that will ultimately change the enjoyment of this game for the long timers. You just minimized all our hard accomplishments with this. Not trying to be mean but just giving my criticism and opinion.
If the third parties are taking 30%, might have been better player good will to sell items directly from their store, but marked down 15%. They still get back half of what third party services were taking, and the 15% lower price would encourage buying.
EXAMPLE: Buying a $10 item from third party, they get $7 and third party gets $3.
Direct sell: Sell Item for $8.50. They get $8.50 straight up and the player pays $8.50, saving $1.50.
I think they are talking about the ability to bulk buy chrons, 62,500 at a time
I sincerely doubt that the third parties are only taking 30% for one thing out of all the stuff they sell. That is what I was talking about.
I agree with you there: the 3rd parties are getting their cut no matter what. So is Paramount/CBS.
The ability for people to bulk buy dil and chrons runs the risk of breaking events. People who take the time to gather resources have a much higher risk of seeing their work be undermined by someone who’s willing to spend their life savings on. That was Gandozer’s complaint and what Princess Uhura was responding to.
I never said my feelings one way or another on the "Buy to Win" dynamic they introduced. But, the cut WAS mentioned in the post I quoted. And clearly what I was addressing. Multiple people trying to steer my comment into something else does not change what I was commenting on.
"The truth is like a lion; you don't have to defend it. Let it loose; it will defend itself."
I understand the reasoning of bypassing the 3rd party fees and getting more from purchases, but imo you just destroyed the integrity and the reason for playing this game as it was meant. Rankings just lost all meaning and has become pay to get reward. This was a horrible decision and one that will ultimately change the enjoyment of this game for the long timers. You just minimized all our hard accomplishments with this. Not trying to be mean but just giving my criticism and opinion.
If the third parties are taking 30%, might have been better player good will to sell items directly from their store, but marked down 15%. They still get back half of what third party services were taking, and the 15% lower price would encourage buying.
EXAMPLE: Buying a $10 item from third party, they get $7 and third party gets $3.
Direct sell: Sell Item for $8.50. They get $8.50 straight up and the player pays $8.50, saving $1.50.
I think you're overlooking that WRG is still forfeiting some of the store revenue to Xsolla. Presumably, it's just less than Google's 30%. Let's say it's 15%. You can't charge $8.50 instead of $10 because Xsolla is getting that $1.50. You can go anywhere from $8.51-$9.99 and still come out ahead over selling through Google and still give the player a discount of some kind. That's it. That's your window.
I understand the reasoning of bypassing the 3rd party fees and getting more from purchases, but imo you just destroyed the integrity and the reason for playing this game as it was meant. Rankings just lost all meaning and has become pay to get reward. This was a horrible decision and one that will ultimately change the enjoyment of this game for the long timers. You just minimized all our hard accomplishments with this. Not trying to be mean but just giving my criticism and opinion.
If the third parties are taking 30%, might have been better player good will to sell items directly from their store, but marked down 15%. They still get back half of what third party services were taking, and the 15% lower price would encourage buying.
EXAMPLE: Buying a $10 item from third party, they get $7 and third party gets $3.
Direct sell: Sell Item for $8.50. They get $8.50 straight up and the player pays $8.50, saving $1.50.
I think they are talking about the ability to bulk buy chrons, 62,500 at a time
I sincerely doubt that the third parties are only taking 30% for one thing out of all the stuff they sell. That is what I was talking about.
I agree with you there: the 3rd parties are getting their cut no matter what. So is Paramount/CBS.
The ability for people to bulk buy dil and chrons runs the risk of breaking events. People who take the time to gather resources have a much higher risk of seeing their work be undermined by someone who’s willing to spend their life savings on. That was Gandozer’s complaint and what Princess Uhura was responding to.
I never said my feelings one way or another on the "Buy to Win" dynamic they introduced. But, the cut WAS mentioned in the post I quoted. And clearly what I was addressing. Multiple people trying to steer my comment into something else does not change what I was commenting on.
My apologies if my post seemed to be putting words in your mouth. That was not my i tention.
That being said, i think that wrg is just trying to make a few extra bucks without players spending more, with one big exception, the ability to bulk buy chrons and dilithium will break events and make them all p2w.
We can argue that shuttle events are already p2w, but that dosnt make it any more palatable. So, anyhow someone else mentioned that while the events and ofher bugs have been happening in recent weeks, this store is what they were working on, and i think that is proabably accurare. I doubt that there are more than 10 people dedicated to solely working on this game. Seems like any new “feature” is an all hands on deck thing.
You know what event format wasn't P2W? Expeditions. Just sayin'. Sure, you could buy additional tickets but even before the removed the clock and made that unnecessary, who among us was so masochistic they actually did?
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Enjoy the discount of 1,24 $ 🤗
It looks like WRG is trying to bypass Apples and Googles app store cuts of 30% for each purchase. There is nothing sinister here.
I hope WRG have read the rulings of Epic Games v. Apple.
I think this is good, but I am not a US legal expert, and I have very limited UK legal knowledge.
Thank you very much for that perspective. Greatly appreciated.
It will cost me more from the WRG store, than from Amazon.
Currently £18.60 from Amazon, and £19.66 from the WRG store. If I used Amazon coins I could save even more. On Google Play it is £22.99
What a bargain. WRG wasted how much time putting together a system to provide offers that are at best underwhelming while not putting in sufficient effort to ensure that the existing game ran smoothly?
All of this. I don't mind the existence of the store; I understand the economics in play. But if you want us to actually use it (a) there needs to be a better user experience than making people dig up their DBID and (b) the prices should actually be, you know, cheaper so there's motivation to take those extra steps. I figured the campaign might be $20 when it went live on the web store; I actually laughed when I saw how underwhelming the discount was.
Just focused on the campaign price
Bundles, I meant bundles
Yes, the discount for the campaign Ultimate track starts with the new campaign.
It was visible on the webstore
Overall the site is pathetic.
To be fair to GTMET, they asked before Reset, and it went live with the new Campaign. The announcement only said it was "Not yet live".
For me, I have to decide if the extra Play Points being lost is worth the amount of the discount. At four times Play Points, when that happens, it gives me a $ worth of Play Points. 100 Play Points equals $1 in the Play Store and in games. I actually use that in games towards the end of the month. One game I play gives you a lot of bonus stuff for the first purchase Sunday night. {Which is their Monday Reset.} A $0.99 purchase qualifies.
Since the discount is more than a $, it might be worth not getting the Play Points, especially when it is not 4x the Points. But, then there is the other issue. What really makes the webstore feel "rushed out"? The fact that we need our DBID and the ability to copy it easily in-game was not live before the Store was.....
Profits are definitey what drives a company, and in this case it looks like they are hoping to cut out the middle man and take home a bigger chunk of the pie.
I think the whales will use this site exclusively but for people who only buy every now and again it will be hard to beat the convenience of the in game purchases.
But none of this should be surprising. Offer wall was all about getting money from a third party in exchange for our time watching their ads to get dilithium.
The third campaign track was all about trying to increase the monthly subscription fee for campaigns.
The new ten day card for retrieval fuel is also geared towards trying to have a steady and increased drain on players funds.
I can totally understand that they need to have profits to jeep the lights on, but the end result of all of these efforts is that many of the games resources are now more common and have less value. Thats why it takes more resources to compete and place in events, even though the playerbase is decreasing.
Anyway, end result of this new website is that they might make 30% more money off the 5% of the players in this game that are regular spenders or whales, and they might get a little extra cash here and there from other players.
Hopefully the website exclusive crew offers dosnt totally break the game. Like, heres an exclusive offer for the new best card in the game, $29.99.
I kinda wish they'd gone lower and given it a Geocities aesthetic.
I think this situation illustrates how companies sometimes make decisions (good or bad here remains to be seen) because of other companies' greed.
I dunno. I think prioritizing finding a way to keep from forfeiting 30% of the company's revenue stream to Google at a time when customers' food, gas, and shelter budgets are depleting their pixels budgets was probably the right call. Besides, it's unlikely the same developers who work on the improvements players like us want suspended their work to be the ones to set up this store.
If the third parties are taking 30%, might have been better player good will to sell items directly from their store, but marked down 15%. They still get back half of what third party services were taking, and the 15% lower price would encourage buying.
EXAMPLE: Buying a $10 item from third party, they get $7 and third party gets $3.
Direct sell: Sell Item for $8.50. They get $8.50 straight up and the player pays $8.50, saving $1.50.
Getting a better deal by the size of the package…I’m sorry
I think they are talking about the ability to bulk buy chrons, 62,500 at a time
If that’s what they were doing, that would be reasonable. Instead, they took the $10 item, discounted it to $9.50 and pocketed the extra $2.50 with their new partner. Given WRG’s lack of dedication to quality, buying from the webstore seems to be a disaster waiting to happen.
This game has been P2W from the start. Look at faction events, you can't win without dumping a ton of DIL to speedup shuttles.
And for all other events the limiting factor at the top of the leaderboard is time. F2P players have won galaxy and skirmish events. Plenty of players have more than enough chrons/supplies to win. The question is who is willing to spend 96 hours straight clicking. Nothing this store has done has changed that.
🤐🤐🤐🤐🤐🤐🤐 dont advertise that. They will cut off the amazon coin store. 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Honestly, having exclusive crew in this outside store limiting the choices of where and how to spend or not, is really a slap in the face to all players. Veteran players who see the game evolve over time are not at all happy. Have paid the most cumulatively wherever they make purchases that feels safe or accessible. Now everyone must share DBID, e-mail, and financial info with a 3rd party to get exclusive crew??????? This is most distressing.
I use amazon exclusively not only for the discounts but because i dont online share financial info. Or sign up for multiple gaming sites, or give my email often.
Now im supposed to also give them my DBID along with everything???
Hey WRG…… ????? I kindly suggest you re-evaluate that. (limiting crew cards, in a card collecting game to a particular purchase “here” only or dont get one,) exclusive crew in this store only will bring on serious pitchforks.
So all the while the game and every event now is glitching or breaking down you guys are working on discounted purchases and limiting crew cads?????
Oh and also, how many chrons you can purchase in bundles makes no difference if you cant use them because the event broke.
If someone is willing to spend 475 $ on 62500 chrons, which is barely enough for a single Skirmish 1st place, they have my blessing.
/edit: Buying the legendary event crew straight is much cheaper.
I sincerely doubt that the third parties are only taking 30% for one thing out of all the stuff they sell. That is what I was talking about.
I agree with you there: the 3rd parties are getting their cut no matter what. So is Paramount/CBS.
The ability for people to bulk buy dil and chrons runs the risk of breaking events. People who take the time to gather resources have a much higher risk of seeing their work be undermined by someone who’s willing to spend their life savings on. That was Gandozer’s complaint and what Princess Uhura was responding to.
I never said my feelings one way or another on the "Buy to Win" dynamic they introduced. But, the cut WAS mentioned in the post I quoted. And clearly what I was addressing. Multiple people trying to steer my comment into something else does not change what I was commenting on.
I think you're overlooking that WRG is still forfeiting some of the store revenue to Xsolla. Presumably, it's just less than Google's 30%. Let's say it's 15%. You can't charge $8.50 instead of $10 because Xsolla is getting that $1.50. You can go anywhere from $8.51-$9.99 and still come out ahead over selling through Google and still give the player a discount of some kind. That's it. That's your window.
My apologies if my post seemed to be putting words in your mouth. That was not my i tention.
That being said, i think that wrg is just trying to make a few extra bucks without players spending more, with one big exception, the ability to bulk buy chrons and dilithium will break events and make them all p2w.
We can argue that shuttle events are already p2w, but that dosnt make it any more palatable. So, anyhow someone else mentioned that while the events and ofher bugs have been happening in recent weeks, this store is what they were working on, and i think that is proabably accurare. I doubt that there are more than 10 people dedicated to solely working on this game. Seems like any new “feature” is an all hands on deck thing.