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Voyages nerf

<TGE> DangerDrake<TGE> DangerDrake ✭✭✭
edited December 2017 in The Bridge
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That's quite a nerf. More of all the things I and so many of us already have in abundance and less of all the things that are actually useful for long-time players. Oh well. Thanks for disincentivizing me to spend dilithium to extend voyages.
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  • YateballYateball ✭✭✭✭✭
    This doesn't seem that bad to me, depending what "slightly" means. New voyage exclusive crew and tweaked rewards certainly isn't enough to over-react over
  • WaldoMagWaldoMag ✭✭✭✭✭
    I have two accounts at 8hr thru 10 hr Chron reward is now 15 over 10. On other account at 11.5 hr mark still 15 Chron.

    So I think the new max for Chron non dilemmas is 15 instead of 10 not sure what hour mark it starts at.
  • On time or one time @Shan ?

    If they are one time and exclusive to Voyages, are they going to be fully fused out of the hatchery or will we need to citation them to complete ?

    And of note..
    Makes more sense to "slight decrease" chronitons -Prior- to 4 hours, to give us additional reason to -purchase- extensions.

    Perhaps even increase the odds at 6h.
    This will provide us more reasons to extend.

    Thank you.
  • PS. Potential yay to Christmas sale !
    (I'll save the big yay til I see the damage )
  • The chrons have already been nerfed. Seems like they are doing it again. Looks like DB is just trying to make sure that I don't drop dil to extend my voyages. The only reason to do so is for chrons since they have also seemingly nerfed the 4s that drop too.
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  • WaldoMagWaldoMag ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 2017
    @FutureImperfecta
    You may be right about an increase at 6hr mark. I just do not know when the 15 Chron reward kicks in. I was thinking that when it does that two hour range would have more Chron than previously.

    Edit:
    I just got the in game message concerning update. My voyages are going to be earning more Chron than before because the rate of rewards does not change for voyages that were already out. But they changed the max to 15. If there is increase drop rate to 4* crew I will not see it until my next voyage. My own dilemma 4* crew drop is more important than Chron to me., but I set these voyages up for reviving (I have all trait bonuses) do I recall them now. No i will not one voyage will not yield a whole lot of 4* crew. I will let my voyage go until I get two dilemmas for one revive then I will recall.

    edit2: I AM WRONG ON MY EDIT. I reread the in game message. My rewards will have changed from the point when the update went live. But what I got before it went live does not change. Of course, I did not expect the rewards I received to change.
  • AmphistaffAmphistaff ✭✭✭✭✭
    On time or one time @Shan ?

    If they are one time and exclusive to Voyages, are they going to be fully fused out of the hatchery or will we need to citation them to complete ?

    And of note..
    Makes more sense to "slight decrease" chronitons -Prior- to 4 hours, to give us additional reason to -purchase- extensions.

    Perhaps even increase the odds at 6h.
    This will provide us more reasons to extend.

    Thank you.

    Nothing is ever FF out of the gate. It's going to be a one-time drop and you have to FF with honor. That's IF you ever get a part 2 or 3 to drop for you.
  • Captain_WhoCaptain_Who ✭✭✭✭✭
    It sounds like the frequency is down. However, I do believe that the 15 chron drop is new. Maybe the frequency was cut buy a third, so at the 8 hour mark 15 is opened up?

    As I said in the other thread, these probably aren't hard numbers, but relative weights. Merely nerfing the chron weight would increase everything else's rate while only touching a single value and allowing for more precise (and invisible) tweaking.
  • edited December 2017
    I have 5 legendary replicator rations, never seen them drop in voyages before but not sure if they're new.

    Its a mixed bag, less chance of chronitons after 4 hours isn't great (how many of us are just doing 4 hour voyages anyway? That'll be the way to go if you only want chronitons) but more credits is always nice, thats something we've been talking about for a while. This'll be the second nerf to chronitons though, remember back when voyages first appeared I could come back with over 1000k quite easily, now its normally between 600 and 800, not a huge nerf but quite noticeable. Right now I'm 8 hours in and have 441 so its quite a drop. I think this'll be the end of voyages as easy chroniton farming, still at least now it'll save you money dilithium refills.

    It'll be interesting to see who these 4 new crew are, not keen on how they're voyages only as that means you'll need to rank them up with honour points or hope they drop from voyages again.
  • If these are dependant on a part 2/3
    ...I don't think there are that many 3 part sorry in Voyages yet, are there ?

    Wonder if they added more of the non included 4*'s to the table yet, or if it will still be as I suspected, the next time they update the premium portal, this past update goes in to Voyages.. (screen cap any new 4* seen, it ain't real with out a screen cap lol)
  • I have 6 legendary replicator rations, never seen them drop in voyages before but not sure if they're new.

    They are not new.
  • WaldoMagWaldoMag ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 2017
    @Amphistaff
    You know it. Nothing ever is more than unfused crew unless it is a one star crew.

    I know the dilemma route for colonel worf and fierce Guinan and I have yet to get them. Though I do have a limit on how long I will let a voyage go.
  • Captain_WhoCaptain_Who ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 2017
    I have 6 legendary replicator rations, never seen them drop in voyages before but not sure if they're new.

    No, I've gotten legendary rations before. They're uncommon, but there. Actually, those got stealth nerfed. I got them somewhat frequently when voyages were new, and lately only the top dilemma reward roll where you get 100 honor and 75 chrons.
    If these are dependant on a part 2/3
    ...I don't think there are that many 3 part sorry in Voyages yet, are there ?

    Wonder if they added more of the non included 4*'s to the table yet, or if it will still be as I suspected, the next time they update the premium portal, this past update goes in to Voyages.. (screen cap any new 4* seen, it ain't real with out a screen cap lol)

    I've never seen a part 3 of a dilemma yet, they're exceedingly rare.

    it's doubtful that they added other non-included 4*s. It sounds like they just reset a few missions's first time chosen marker, and dropped the 4* crew in there.
  • DScottHewittDScottHewitt ✭✭✭✭✭
    I have 6 legendary replicator rations, never seen them drop in voyages before but not sure if they're new.

    They are not new.

    I got like 51 Greens the other day. One of my rare more than two Hour Voyages I got an assortment, including about a dozen 5*


    Scott


    "The truth is like a lion; you don't have to defend it. Let it loose; it will defend itself."
  • What happened to the greater chance to get crew? And the less trainers? These are what were initially announced and seemed like changes for the better to make up for the less chronos.
  • IkritIkrit ✭✭✭
    My main issue with this is the increased chance for Training Programs. I wasn't aware that newer players were having issues getting them. The gauntlet seems to give plenty and voyages already give a lot. I do know that people were having trouble with credits though, especially with the number of chronitons that were being given out from voyages (and replicator rations, encouraging people to replicate bigger items because they have more fuel).
  • DScottHewittDScottHewitt ✭✭✭✭✭
    Ikrit wrote: »
    My main issue with this is the increased chance for Training Programs. I wasn't aware that newer players were having issues getting them. The gauntlet seems to give plenty and voyages already give a lot. I do know that people were having trouble with credits though, especially with the number of chronitons that were being given out from voyages (and replicator rations, encouraging people to replicate bigger items because they have more fuel).

    Shuttle Missions also drop up to 5* Trainers, even when they Fail.


    Just adding another source in.


    Scott

    "The truth is like a lion; you don't have to defend it. Let it loose; it will defend itself."
  • DavideBooksDavideBooks ✭✭✭✭✭
    Ikrit wrote: »
    My main issue with this is the increased chance for Training Programs. I wasn't aware that newer players were having issues getting them. The gauntlet seems to give plenty and voyages already give a lot. I do know that people were having trouble with credits though, especially with the number of chronitons that were being given out from voyages (and replicator rations, encouraging people to replicate bigger items because they have more fuel).

    The gauntlet gives very little. I don't think I've received more than a hand full of trainers therefrom. I get lots of small offerings of credits. Voyages give out the small stuff, but unless you get far, they are not a lot. The only reason for credits is replicating lots of high value stuff. Most of us only replicate once a day. With trainers, I can train much more. Maybe some day I'll be in your place, but for now, I can't keep enough trainers for my needs.
  • DScottHewittDScottHewitt ✭✭✭✭✭
    Hope_F wrote: »
    The fact we are getting even more trainers than before is the joke of the year!

    I always can use more Trainers.

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    "The truth is like a lion; you don't have to defend it. Let it loose; it will defend itself."
  • DScottHewittDScottHewitt ✭✭✭✭✭
    You can buy trainers with honor. There is no reason to nerf chrons except to handicap players.

    I did buy Trainers with Honor, and now wish I hadn't. I'm at 30K Honor, and Kahless is leaving soon after New Year's from the Honor Hall......


    You are absolutely right that there really isn't a good reason to nerf Chrono drops......


    Scott

    "The truth is like a lion; you don't have to defend it. Let it loose; it will defend itself."
  • Hope_FHope_F ✭✭✭
    Hope_F wrote: »
    The fact we are getting even more trainers than before is the joke of the year!

    I always can use more Trainers.

    5EsTTWC.jpg

    5EsTTWC.jpg

    Be honest, you burned them in the replicator, where they belong ;)
  • DScottHewittDScottHewitt ✭✭✭✭✭
    Hope_F wrote: »
    Hope_F wrote: »
    The fact we are getting even more trainers than before is the joke of the year!

    I always can use more Trainers.

    5EsTTWC.jpg

    5EsTTWC.jpg

    Be honest, you burned them in the replicator, where they belong ;)

    Nope. II burned them getting some of the 1*s that went immediately into the Fridge Immortalized, for the "Immortalize Your Crew Members" Achievements. {Well, Mayweather will not take a Chill Pill until after the upcoming Event.}

    {Full disclosure: I also leveled some with more *S as well.}



    Scott

    "The truth is like a lion; you don't have to defend it. Let it loose; it will defend itself."
  • I feel like I am the only one who is ok with the chrono/trainer drop in favor of more credits. Currently I have 31 characters who each can use 2 items built for them, but don't have the credits for it.
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