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What we’re doing to fix broken Time Portal pulls

Admiral PrinceAdmiral Prince ✭✭✭
edited October 2017 in The Bridge
Greetings, Captains,

Last week, we updated the Time Portal to include many of the 4-star and 5-star crew we’ve released in the past couple of months. After the update went live, you told us you weren’t seeing any of the new 4-star crew, only the 5-star ones. We checked the data and tested it again, and found no issues.

You continued to report that new 4-star crew were not appearing, so today we had the entire Timelines team go through thousands of pulls. It became clear that despite what the tests and game data were saying, something was wrong. After a deep dive, we identified the issue. The cause of the issue was that there was an undocumented fix that caused regular game processes to become interrupted. This has been fixed and verified in-game. Our marketing drone even completed 100 pulls to confirm. Don’t worry: we airlocked all of their new crew.

This was our error. Here’s how we’re going to address it:

1) We are adding a new pack to the Time Portal, 4-Star Apology, which grants one new 4-star crew (no Beholds). This pack will not cost Dilithium, and you will be able to purchase it for Honor. The pack will be available tomorrow and remain up for one week.

2) Everyone who redeemed Premium Portal pulls since the crew list was updated last Wednesday, October 11th until today, October 18th, will receive a number of these new packs based on the number of pulls during that time period. For every 10 pulls of the Premium Portal you made, we’ll give you 1 pull of the 4 Star Apology pack. (If you made between 1 and 10 Premium Portal pulls you get 1 4 Star Apology pull.) We will award this compensation tomorrow.

3) We are performing a thorough investigation of our build processes so we can do a better job of catching these bugs in the future.

We appreciate your Starfleet-level investigation and persistence with reporting this issue. Mistakes will likely happen going forward as game development is complex, and we’re not perfect. No matter how we refine our processes, involve advanced tools, or utilize our talented team, tardigrades will find a way of sneaking in.

From this situation, I’ve learned that we can’t take anything for granted, especially your trust in us. I apologize for this issue, and I won’t ask you to take my word for it; instead, I’d like to ask you to keep an eye out and judge us by our actions. And please, if you see us stumbling, I welcome you calling us out. By working together, we will be able to keep making the game you love playing.

Thank you,
Admiral Prince
Game Director, Star Trek Timelines

Edited: to explain what happens if you made fewer than 10 Premium Portal pulls.
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  • DralixDralix ✭✭✭✭✭
    From sorrytons to sorrypacks. :)
  • Erin, why was this not communicated to us earlier that you were testing the issue fervently? All we were told by Shan was that a QA rep tested through 4 pulls, there was no issue, and the players were wrong.
  • Princess TristaPrincess Trista ✭✭✭✭✭
    What of those that pulled 8? Is it rounded up?
  • How much honour/pull, 16,200?
  • Jim SteeleJim Steele ✭✭✭✭✭
    What if we don't want the sorry packs? Can we get honour instead?
    DB: Do Better
  • (HGH)Apollo(HGH)Apollo ✭✭✭✭✭
    This keeps happening over and over with portals not having the crew they are supposed to have. When I buy packs how will I ever know if the odds are correct and that the people I want are in the pack? I usually buy one or two packs at a time so how will I know when the packs are wrong and when I am just having bad luck?
    Let’s fly!
  • For every 10 pulls...does this mean each 10x premium pack i pulled during oct 11- 18 is compensated by one free compensation pull?
    ~ seeking out new life
  • Brunt, FCABrunt, FCA ✭✭✭
    edited October 2017
    I presume the community 10x's count if they were used before today?
  • This is great, but can you help me with some math. I purchased the 30 pack offer and performed 30 10x pulls. Does that equal 300 premium pulls? Do I receive 30 4 star apology pulls?
  • Oops someone beat me to the question
  • This keeps happening over and over with portals not having the crew they are supposed to have. When I buy packs how will I ever know if the odds are correct and that the people I want are in the pack? I usually buy one or two packs at a time so how will I know when the packs are wrong and when I am just having bad luck?

    I think the loss of confidence here is a real problem. Most people at least accept the fact that we don't know the exact chances of pulling X, but if we can't trust that there's ANY chance people will just pack it in. It's one of the basic foundations of this game.
  • Biga Higa wrote: »
    This is great, but can you help me with some math. I purchased the 30 pack offer and performed 30 10x pulls. Does that equal 300 premium pulls? Do I receive 30 4 star apology pulls?

    This is the way I’m reading it. I did 10 10x pulls last night + 1 community pull from over the weekend so I’m thinking I get 11 of these?
  • While I am happy that they owned up to it on the forums, my question is why haven't they sent out any info about it in-game? The forum is only a very very small percentage of the player base and they are only making amends to that small percentage.
  • DralixDralix ✭✭✭✭✭
    Dinoss wrote: »
    While I am happy that they owned up to it on the forums, my question is why haven't they sent out any info about it in-game? The forum is only a very very small percentage of the player base and they are only making amends to that small percentage.


    The way I read this, they are making amends to everyone. Tomorrow, compensation in the form of free sorrypacks will be sent to everyone affected. That will likely include a version of this post.
  • Paladin 27Paladin 27 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Dinoss wrote: »
    While I am happy that they owned up to it on the forums, my question is why haven't they sent out any info about it in-game? The forum is only a very very small percentage of the player base and they are only making amends to that small percentage.

    Won't everyone see the new pack and that they have free pulls when they show up in the time portal tomorrow as indicated.
  • I am sure if someone is not on the forums and they had pulls they will receive an email or in game mail how else would they know why they were receiving the compensation pull(s)
  • Dralix wrote: »
    Dinoss wrote: »
    While I am happy that they owned up to it on the forums, my question is why haven't they sent out any info about it in-game? The forum is only a very very small percentage of the player base and they are only making amends to that small percentage.


    The way I read this, they are making amends to everyone. Tomorrow, compensation in the form of free sorrypacks will be sent to everyone affected. That will likely include a version of this post.

    I truly hope this is the case.
  • Dralix wrote: »
    The way I read this, they are making amends to everyone. Tomorrow, compensation in the form of free sorrypacks will be sent to everyone affected. That will likely include a version of this post.

    Free? they're going to cost honor.

  • rooties wrote: »
    Dralix wrote: »
    The way I read this, they are making amends to everyone. Tomorrow, compensation in the form of free sorrypacks will be sent to everyone affected. That will likely include a version of this post.

    Free? they're going to cost honor.

    My read of #2 is that everyone will get a number that equates to their pulls sometime tomorrow; #1 is just saying the pack will also be available to purchase for honor (presumably for those who didn't purchase because of the error)
  • Biga Higa wrote: »
    This is great, but can you help me with some math. I purchased the 30 pack offer and performed 30 10x pulls. Does that equal 300 premium pulls? Do I receive 30 4 star apology pulls?

    3x 4* apology pulls
  • JeanLucKirkJeanLucKirk ✭✭✭✭✭
    This is the way I’m reading it. I did 10 10x pulls last night + 1 community pull from over the weekend so I’m thinking I get 11 of these?

    Yeah, I understand it like that as well...

  • Biga Higa wrote: »
    This is great, but can you help me with some math. I purchased the 30 pack offer and performed 30 10x pulls. Does that equal 300 premium pulls? Do I receive 30 4 star apology pulls?

    This is the way I’m reading it. I did 10 10x pulls last night + 1 community pull from over the weekend so I’m thinking I get 11 of these?

    2 of these 4* apology pulls
  • This Sisko1This Sisko1 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think I am reading for every 10 10x pulls, you get 1 pull via the new 4 star pack.
  • Biga Higa wrote: »
    This is great, but can you help me with some math. I purchased the 30 pack offer and performed 30 10x pulls. Does that equal 300 premium pulls? Do I receive 30 4 star apology pulls?

    This is the way I’m reading it. I did 10 10x pulls last night + 1 community pull from over the weekend so I’m thinking I get 11 of these?

    2 of these 4* apology pulls

    1-10x 10 pull = 1× 4* apology pull
    11-20x 10 pull = 2× 4* apology pull
    21-30x 10 pull = 3× 4* apology pull

    And so on
  • So I'm either getting like 11 or 110. We'll find out tomorrow. And oh yes, there will be youtube.
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  • Data1001Data1001 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 2017
    I think I am reading for every 10 10x pulls, you get 1 pull via the new 4 star pack.

    I don't think you meant to write it that way, but it's definitely not 1 "for every 10 10x pulls"... rather, it's one 'sorrypull' for every 10 premium pulls, period. Here's the actual quote from Admiral Prince:
    For every 10 pulls of the Premium Portal you made, we’ll give you 1 pull of the 4 Star Apology pack. (If you made between 1 and 10 Premium Portal pulls you get 1 4 Star Apology pull.)


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  • So I'm either getting like 11 or 110. We'll find out tomorrow. And oh yes, there will be youtube.

    If you bought 110x 10 pulls then you get 11x 4* apology packs
  • dwhisper wrote: »
    rooties wrote: »
    Dralix wrote: »
    The way I read this, they are making amends to everyone. Tomorrow, compensation in the form of free sorrypacks will be sent to everyone affected. That will likely include a version of this post.

    Free? they're going to cost honor.

    My read of #2 is that everyone will get a number that equates to their pulls sometime tomorrow; #1 is just saying the pack will also be available to purchase for honor (presumably for those who didn't purchase because of the error)

    I'm taking this as a gesture of goodwill for those not getting compensation for pulls they did because they didn't pull any. So everyone has a chance at these 'new crew only' pulls.
    No dilithium required.
    ~ seeking out new life
  • So I'm either getting like 11 or 110. We'll find out tomorrow. And oh yes, there will be youtube.

    If you bought 11x 10 pulls then you get 2x 4* apology pulls
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