This is not the change in reward structure that the player-base has been asking for. Not sure what the driving force was behind this change, but it is a most unwelcome change.
@Shan with this being the first run of this set up please mail each player 1 copy of Tuxedo Nog as that would solve a lot of peoples frustrations. Once that is mailed having him not in ranked rewards for his event will no longer be an issue.
@Shan with this being the first run of this set up please mail each player 1 copy of Tuxedo Nog as that would solve a lot of peoples frustrations. Once that is mailed having him not in ranked rewards for his event will no longer be an issue.
Honestly, they can keep Nog. I'd be happier if they canned the change and left things as is.
@Shan This still doesn't help with the issue of know the following week's ranked reward. Let's say the card I really want will be the ranked reward in the event starting on October 11th. The best way for me to get that card is to do well in the event starting on October 4th. Can we please get the information about the featured crew (and ideally stats too) for the October 11th event before the October 4th event starts? If it isn't given until October 5th, I might have missed the opportunity I needed to do well in the Event that starts on the 4th to do well in the event on the 11th.
@Shan with this being the first run of this set up please mail each player 1 copy of Tuxedo Nog as that would solve a lot of peoples frustrations. Once that is mailed having him not in ranked rewards for his event will no longer be an issue.
Honestly, they can keep Nog. I'd be happier if they canned the change and left things as is.
@Shan with this being the first run of this set up please mail each player 1 copy of Tuxedo Nog as that would solve a lot of peoples frustrations. Once that is mailed having him not in ranked rewards for his event will no longer be an issue.
Honestly, they can keep Nog. I'd be happier if they canned the change and left things as is.
I too would rather keep the current set up over this change. But if they are committed to this it would make things fare and a good token of good will to mail everyone a copy of Nog to make up for the fact he isn't in this weeks ranked rewards.
It kind of unbalances megas too. Get the gold in the first and you've got an advantage for the second, dominoing to the third and fourth. Not everyone is going to be in the top 1000
Regarding stats of the ranked reward 5*, they will be added in the full event notes prior to the event in which they will be the reward.
Example:
Next Wednesday the full event notes for the first part of the Mega-Event will be posted.
These notes will include the stats for the featured event crew and the stats of the 5* ranked reward as well.
but this doesn't address the NEXT event. we would need to know the characters & stats for the following event to know if the current event is worth playing for to get the gold who will be relevant the following week. @SilverRose outlined how it will snowball into future events rather well.
Put off the mega one week and make Tuxedo Nog the reward for a pre-mega original event.
Other than that, I consider this an attempt to be nice that some stupid retarded acorn brain screwed up.
As such, In response to this, this will be the first mega that I will not DYC the Mega character. Nor will I buy any packs even trying to get Nog or FF any 4s during the pure faction.
It's honestly a good idea, but really, you gotta do what Chipowski tells Cookie Monster on Sesame Street. Stop and Think Things Through.
The transition to this methodology was NOT thought through.
Amended:
One other way to make this work... Give everyone 1 star on Tuxedo Nog to kick off the event.
You do that once change, and I'm back in your corner on this.
At no point during my recent no-spending run have I said “never again” will I spend money on this game, because I held out hope that DB’s business practices and attitude towards the very people that keep them in business would improve. This change is yet another instance of unabashed greed that tells me that such a hope is unfounded.
DB, I hope for your sake that the extra money you get from the 2,000ish people who will beat each other over the head to avoid missing out on being competitive in the following event makes up for the low- and mid-level players you lose over business decisions like this one.
Edit - making Nog pack-only is a humongous jerk move. You could have made up for your last-minute event rewards change by adding another threshold (at a suitably high level) with a single copy of him, but no...gotta drive short-term sales, right? Disgusting.
Horrible change. Yes , many players asked for a change of reward table,
but i m pretty sure thats not what they meant.
If u wanna ensure more players go all out every event, just try adding some citadations alongside the current/old reward table. F.e. Top25 grants u 2 event legendaries and 1 Leg citadation, and so on. Its pretty obvious this hole change is just to increase revenue and event pack buys.... but maybe the exact opposite will happen....when u have more players burning out, thx to this.
Sorry, after some nice calls lately, this is huge step backwards imho.
Why not see how things work and then judge, stop with already putting down everything that DB is trying to put up. Maybe it's **tsk tsk**, but let's wait and see if it is.
I hope DB is open to seeing how the mega goes, then adjusting. There's some good points about this being negative to new players. Especially the domino effect.
Why not see how things work and then judge, stop with already putting down everything that DB is trying to put up. Maybe it's **tsk tsk**, but let's wait and see if it is.
We already know how one part is... that's one of the points.
A character some of us have been requesting for a while now is both new, featured crew and pack only.
That's not putting down everything new, that's factual based criticism.
Just give out a single copy of Tux Nog before next week to everyone. If DB insists on this silly idea going forward, giving out a free copy to start is only fair, given that Nog is Packs Only, but all future Event Chars will not be.
As a paying player I can see the benefits as if you rank high in the first event then you are in a great position for the next event and will potentially save them money.
The problem with this is that there are no additional changes in reward structure. DB is simply making it harder for people to compete for top 1000 without paying but at the same time those who regularly rank high get a boost for the next event.
Now the goal is obviously to give incentive to purchase packs which is fine to me but if you truly want to give people a true incentive then provide a balanced reward structure. People who get in the top 25 are spending money already and you are actually giving them a reason NOT to spend money in the next event and they are probably the people that consistently are spenders.
I am happy to see how this plays out but when I saw the title I was super excited and then super disappointed.
Regarding stats of the ranked reward 5*, they will be added in the full event notes prior to the event in which they will be the reward.
Example:
Next Wednesday the full event notes for the first part of the Mega-Event will be posted.
These notes will include the stats for the featured event crew and the stats of the 5* ranked reward as well.
but this doesn't address the NEXT event. we would need to know the characters & stats for the following event to know if the current event is worth playing for to get the gold who will be relevant the following week. @SilverRose outlined how it will snowball into future events rather well.
It does address it.
Shan says it will have the stats of the featured event crew (Nog) AND the stats of the 5* rank (the next week's event reward).
So, yes, it will have the stats for both of the relevant 5*s on Wednesday before the first event starts.
I get the idea behind this and I think it's fine. But what about event #1 of the new way?
What about the fact that 5x as many people are playing now for the same rewards?
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Regarding stats of the ranked reward 5*, they will be added in the full event notes prior to the event in which they will be the reward.
Example:
Next Wednesday the full event notes for the first part of the Mega-Event will be posted.
These notes will include the stats for the featured event crew and the stats of the 5* ranked reward as well.
I'm not inclined to like the change, but at least my primary concern is satisfied. Thank you. Perhaps I will come to like it. As previously stated, we would all appreciate the crew's ship ability being posted early as well, since that can make a big difference in the crew's desirability.
Regarding stats of the ranked reward 5*, they will be added in the full event notes prior to the event in which they will be the reward.
Example:
Next Wednesday the full event notes for the first part of the Mega-Event will be posted.
These notes will include the stats for the featured event crew and the stats of the 5* ranked reward as well.
I'm not inclined to like the change, but at least my primary concern is satisfied. Thank you. Perhaps I will come to like it. As previously stated, we would all appreciate the crew's ship ability being posted early as well, since that can make a big difference in the crew's desirability.
Agreed. Some crew will undoubtedly look very uninspiring, then (too late) after someone is able to post the skills in the forum after the event is OVER, we all find out they're a new skirmish powerhouse card. It's unfortunate we won't know the super-rare crew or stats, but at least the ship ability should be shared of the legendary.
"The threshold rewards change we made for the rerun of the "Family Tree" event was positively received and we are committed to providing the same structure in future reruns!"
Does this mean more 5* crew in the thresholds for re-runs?
At first I thought this was a good idea, but SilverRose made me rethink. I'm not opposed completely but I'm also not thrilled.
I know there is no way DB would even consider it, but why not 2 Legendary crew in the reward? You get the crew from the current event plus the crew for the next event. This would allow you to get the crew you wanted from the event you wanted. It would also mean if someone went all out 2 weeks in a row to get the top 1000, they would end up with a 2/5 after the second week instead of a 1/5.
Event # 1 - Legendary for Event # 1 plus Legendary for Event # 2 - 1/5 of each
Event # 2 - Legendary for Event # 2 plus Legendary for Event # 3 - 2/5 of # 2 and 1/5 of # 3
Event # 3 - Legendary for Event # 3 plus Legendary for Event # 4 - 2/5 of # 3 and 1/5 of # 4
Etc.
Plus, knowing that you can get a 2/5 will make a player more likely to buy the DYC both weeks to add a 3rd star and then might buy packs to try and get 2 more. It's much more likely they will buy packs to get 2 extra copies than they would to get 4 extra copies.
If you cant play or put as much time as required in for the event this screws you over for further events like a domino effect.
Miss week 1, stops you from been competitive week 2 and means you need to work extra hard to catch up in time for week 3 and means all the work you did in week 0 were for something you haven't used and may not use again until the re-run.
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Mega Legendary is always threshold, not ranked.
Honestly, they can keep Nog. I'd be happier if they canned the change and left things as is.
I hope that makes sense.
I too would rather keep the current set up over this change. But if they are committed to this it would make things fare and a good token of good will to mail everyone a copy of Nog to make up for the fact he isn't in this weeks ranked rewards.
But think of the cash flow if that one becomes pack only, too!
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but this doesn't address the NEXT event. we would need to know the characters & stats for the following event to know if the current event is worth playing for to get the gold who will be relevant the following week. @SilverRose outlined how it will snowball into future events rather well.
Put off the mega one week and make Tuxedo Nog the reward for a pre-mega original event.
Other than that, I consider this an attempt to be nice that some stupid retarded acorn brain screwed up.
As such, In response to this, this will be the first mega that I will not DYC the Mega character. Nor will I buy any packs even trying to get Nog or FF any 4s during the pure faction.
It's honestly a good idea, but really, you gotta do what Chipowski tells Cookie Monster on Sesame Street. Stop and Think Things Through.
The transition to this methodology was NOT thought through.
Amended:
One other way to make this work... Give everyone 1 star on Tuxedo Nog to kick off the event.
You do that once change, and I'm back in your corner on this.
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At no point during my recent no-spending run have I said “never again” will I spend money on this game, because I held out hope that DB’s business practices and attitude towards the very people that keep them in business would improve. This change is yet another instance of unabashed greed that tells me that such a hope is unfounded.
DB, I hope for your sake that the extra money you get from the 2,000ish people who will beat each other over the head to avoid missing out on being competitive in the following event makes up for the low- and mid-level players you lose over business decisions like this one.
Edit - making Nog pack-only is a humongous jerk move. You could have made up for your last-minute event rewards change by adding another threshold (at a suitably high level) with a single copy of him, but no...gotta drive short-term sales, right? Disgusting.
but i m pretty sure thats not what they meant.
If u wanna ensure more players go all out every event, just try adding some citadations alongside the current/old reward table. F.e. Top25 grants u 2 event legendaries and 1 Leg citadation, and so on. Its pretty obvious this hole change is just to increase revenue and event pack buys.... but maybe the exact opposite will happen....when u have more players burning out, thx to this.
Sorry, after some nice calls lately, this is huge step backwards imho.
I'll reserve judgement on this new feature, but it's clear that I will not get Nog.
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So long and thanks for all the fish.
If this is the case, are we able to get the ship ability as part of the stats? That can be a key part of a crew's desirability.
Additionally, could we start this tradition of 5* stats now with Nog's stats?
We already know how one part is... that's one of the points.
A character some of us have been requesting for a while now is both new, featured crew and pack only.
That's not putting down everything new, that's factual based criticism.
THIS! +1
The problem with this is that there are no additional changes in reward structure. DB is simply making it harder for people to compete for top 1000 without paying but at the same time those who regularly rank high get a boost for the next event.
Now the goal is obviously to give incentive to purchase packs which is fine to me but if you truly want to give people a true incentive then provide a balanced reward structure. People who get in the top 25 are spending money already and you are actually giving them a reason NOT to spend money in the next event and they are probably the people that consistently are spenders.
I am happy to see how this plays out but when I saw the title I was super excited and then super disappointed.
It does address it.
Shan says it will have the stats of the featured event crew (Nog) AND the stats of the 5* rank (the next week's event reward).
So, yes, it will have the stats for both of the relevant 5*s on Wednesday before the first event starts.
What about the fact that 5x as many people are playing now for the same rewards?
I'm not inclined to like the change, but at least my primary concern is satisfied. Thank you. Perhaps I will come to like it. As previously stated, we would all appreciate the crew's ship ability being posted early as well, since that can make a big difference in the crew's desirability.
Agreed. Some crew will undoubtedly look very uninspiring, then (too late) after someone is able to post the skills in the forum after the event is OVER, we all find out they're a new skirmish powerhouse card. It's unfortunate we won't know the super-rare crew or stats, but at least the ship ability should be shared of the legendary.
If so, can we have all reruns from now on?
I know there is no way DB would even consider it, but why not 2 Legendary crew in the reward? You get the crew from the current event plus the crew for the next event. This would allow you to get the crew you wanted from the event you wanted. It would also mean if someone went all out 2 weeks in a row to get the top 1000, they would end up with a 2/5 after the second week instead of a 1/5.
Event # 1 - Legendary for Event # 1 plus Legendary for Event # 2 - 1/5 of each
Event # 2 - Legendary for Event # 2 plus Legendary for Event # 3 - 2/5 of # 2 and 1/5 of # 3
Event # 3 - Legendary for Event # 3 plus Legendary for Event # 4 - 2/5 of # 3 and 1/5 of # 4
Etc.
Plus, knowing that you can get a 2/5 will make a player more likely to buy the DYC both weeks to add a 3rd star and then might buy packs to try and get 2 more. It's much more likely they will buy packs to get 2 extra copies than they would to get 4 extra copies.
Miss week 1, stops you from been competitive week 2 and means you need to work extra hard to catch up in time for week 3 and means all the work you did in week 0 were for something you haven't used and may not use again until the re-run.
That works as well. Make it the last threshold reward