Butter, butter, butter... free creamy deliciousness for all! lol
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Why not then just give everyone one free 5* citation for this mess up if they cannot tell who received them?
A 5* cite does nothing for ppl who have no survivalist kirk to cite.
Those who did not receive one or two copies, ( reports of 1/5 and 2/5 have been made) can be identified if a ticket is sent. They will check your acct to verify you did not get the ingame mail. That is how they can tell. If u dont send a ticket you are SOL up creeks without paddles.
HOWEVER they have said nothing on the matter as of this time. So sending tickets prematurely without DB confirming fair compensation by ticket process is likely to be a waste of time.
Why not then just give everyone one free 5* citation for this mess up if they cannot tell who received them?
A 5* cite does nothing for ppl who have no survivalist kirk to cite.
Those who did not receive one or two copies, ( reports of 1/5 and 2/5 have been made) can be identified if a ticket is sent. They will check your acct to verify you did not get the ingame mail. That is how they can tell. If u dont send a ticket you are SOL up creeks without paddles.
HOWEVER they have said nothing on the matter as of this time. So sending tickets prematurely without DB confirming fair compensation by ticket process is likely to be a waste of time.
In an electronic game with servers, they must have a way to see where items are sent. Whether CS has access to that technology is the question.
I see sending a ticket one of two ways. One, a validation of a concern on the part of a consumer, or as Mirrorverse Jc points out, (2) a potential waste of time that clogs up the system as others hopefully investigate the identified blunder (which assumes CS takes part in that process).
And, if the mistake is a specific character, then a 5* citation is not warranted. Whether I have Amish Kirk or not, that is the alleged mistake.
At any rate, we will hear something at some point...maybe? lol
“A committee is a cul-de-sac, down which good ideas are lured and quietly strangled.” —Mark TwainMEMBER: [BoB] Barrel of Bloodwine... We are recruiting and putting the “curv” in scurvy! Best Event Finish: #3 Honor Debt: Inconceivable...Honor Bank Account: Slowly building...
I do have to say out of all the DB mess ups, and there have been a few;) I think I am least upset by this one? Maybe I underestimate the impact. But I don't really see db having done anything horrible besides making a mistake, which was unintentional.
Of course, how Db handles it now, that is what matters. I do think like some of my fellows that a global compensation is rather pointless as it basically negates itself. If there is anyway for them to determine who got what and balance that, it would be the most fair way to go, and thats coming from someone who got the kirk.
Daily players from my fleet got one. Not everyone though. I guess we should wait for an official response before getting the pitchforks out. I’d love a second Kirk though
I mean, it's free stuff, sure. But randomly sending freebies to some for whatever reason isn't going to buy DB any friends. Unless they start doing this randomly on a regular basis
DB is a completely incompetent company. I really wish CBS would give them the axe and get the rights sold for this game to a company that actually was appreciative of it’s customer base and didn’t run a multi million dollar company like an autistic kid’s lemonade stand. They could learn a lot from supercell.
DB exhausted my capacity for outrage a while back. I've this Kirk at 3/5 so an extra star or two would be welcome, but I've little interest in getting a pitchfork out.
With regards to a view on DB's general competence, I'll paraphrase the late Senator Vreenak:
"To be honest, my opinion of DB is so low, they'd have to work very hard indeed to disappoint me."
It escapes me why everyone is that upset about what someone else gets. I am just sincerely happy for them. My pleasure playing the game is derived solely from the way I play this game, and what someone else gets or doesn't get doesn't affect that. I haven't got that Kirk yet, but I will someday somehow simply by playing. Would you all be so upset if you hadn't read about this?
I don't see any reason for DB to compensate the community at large.
/me ducks to avoid the flames.
Most anticipated character not in the game: Mr. Homn
It escapes me why everyone is that upset about what someone else gets. I am just sincerely happy for them. My pleasure playing the game is derived solely from the way I play this game, and what someone else gets or doesn't get doesn't affect that. I haven't got that Kirk yet, but I will someday somehow simply by playing. Would you all be so upset if you hadn't read about this?
I don't see any reason for DB to compensate the community at large.
/me ducks to avoid the flames.
This happens because cucumber/grape effect. If other person get present I want present too, but If I already have that particular present then getting it again is unfair because I already paid for it to get it before everybody else.
It escapes me why everyone is that upset about what someone else gets. I am just sincerely happy for them. My pleasure playing the game is derived solely from the way I play this game, and what someone else gets or doesn't get doesn't affect that. I haven't got that Kirk yet, but I will someday somehow simply by playing. Would you all be so upset if you hadn't read about this?
I don't see any reason for DB to compensate the community at large.
It escapes me why everyone is that upset about what someone else gets. I am just sincerely happy for them. My pleasure playing the game is derived solely from the way I play this game, and what someone else gets or doesn't get doesn't affect that. I haven't got that Kirk yet, but I will someday somehow simply by playing. Would you all be so upset if you hadn't read about this?
I don't see any reason for DB to compensate the community at large.
/me ducks to avoid the flames.
This happens because cucumber/grape effect. If other person get present I want present too, but If I already have that particular present then getting it again is unfair because I already paid for it to get it before everybody else.
I think for some it's also the fact that it happens a bit too often and that in cases like this and Pinafore Data it might give a significant advantage in future events.
Personally, the part where I start to find it annoying is usually when people begin to submit tickets and some of them report being lucky while others get nothing. It's not the mistakes, but how arbitrary the official and non-official compensations for them often seem to be.
If they actually just sent a Kirk to everyone who has been offline for more than 10 days, if this was the first mistake of this kind or even if we could just be sure that nobody will receive one out of a ticket, there probably wouldn't be that much of a discussion here.
The issue for me is once again certain people are getting something without earning it (as was the case with Pentafore Data). You play an event tou reach a certain rank you get the reward. Simple. However some people who did not reach said rank and even ranked at the very bottom got said Data, who was to be event crew for the following event. So the players who rightly earned him have an advantage and justly so. However the bottom of the barrel ranked players have recieved him due to error and now those that were caught in the middle have NOTHING. It's an unfair advantage given to a select few that were not able achieve the rank to earn that Data.
Fast forward to this weekend. People are mysteriously getting a Kirk that was previously offered in a Tuesday exclusive pack (if memory is working correctly I'm sure someone will point out I'd I am mistaken and I thank them for the correction as to how Kirk became available). IF it was to entice people to return to the game that haven't played in X amount of months then I wouldn't have a problem. The problem here lies in the fact that people who have been playing regularly have recieved him duty whatever the circumstances are and others who play just as regularly are left out in the cold once again, just like with Pentafore Data.
It escapes me why everyone is that upset about what someone else gets. I am just sincerely happy for them. My pleasure playing the game is derived solely from the way I play this game, and what someone else gets or doesn't get doesn't affect that. I haven't got that Kirk yet, but I will someday somehow simply by playing. Would you all be so upset if you hadn't read about this?
I don't see any reason for DB to compensate the community at large.
/me ducks to avoid the flames.
I hear you !
I had the same thoughts about that, why are people some damned upset because other people getting a present? In our fleet our maybe strongest player got him and the only thing I did was to make a joke about that in the fleet chat and then to congratulate him. Should I be angry? Why?
Nobody wins an event because of a free Kirk he is getting, nobody beats me in the gauntlet because of this free Kirk, be glad for them that they were lucky, next time its maybe you or me.
And as Emperor Borg Drone already said, the annoying part are the people complaining about it long and loud in the forum, and then they want to have more free stuff. Is that what makes you happy? A free card? A datafile that disappears when this game gets closed? Come on, go out and get a life!
So, did anyone ever find out exactly why some people got Survivalist Kirk and some, such as myself, did not? This seems like such an odd thing to happen.
Weirdly enough, I’m also Vulcan Housewife. Also, RNGesus hates me, like really, REALLY hates me.
Is that what makes you happy? A free card? A datafile that disappears when this game gets closed? Come on, go out and get a life!
Is that what makes you happy? A real life? Something that will disappear when you die? Come on, become a Buddhist!
(I just wanted to point out the fact that the difference between ‘real’ life and ‘virtual’ life is not that big as many tend to think. Especially when ‘virtual’ life involves large amounts of real money, it’s easy to understand why people so upset about something that is merely a record in a database)
So, did anyone ever find out exactly why some people got Survivalist Kirk and some, such as myself, did not? This seems like such an odd thing to happen.
A screw up by DB. But it happened so late on Friday that DB hasn't addressed it or decided what to do.
So, did anyone ever find out exactly why some people got Survivalist Kirk and some, such as myself, did not? This seems like such an odd thing to happen.
A screw up by DB. But it happened so late on Friday that DB hasn't addressed it or decided what to do.
That’s never stopped people from breaking out the torches & pitchforks early, though, now has it?
"In the short run, the game defines the players. But in the long run, it's us players who define the game." — Nicky Case, The Evolution of Trust
The issue for me is once again certain people are getting something without earning it (as was the case with Pentafore Data). You play an event tou reach a certain rank you get the reward. Simple. However some people who did not reach said rank and even ranked at the very bottom got said Data, who was to be event crew for the following event. So the players who rightly earned him have an advantage and justly so. However the bottom of the barrel ranked players have recieved him due to error and now those that were caught in the middle have NOTHING. It's an unfair advantage given to a select few that were not able achieve the rank to earn that Data.
Fast forward to this weekend. People are mysteriously getting a Kirk that was previously offered in a Tuesday exclusive pack (if memory is working correctly I'm sure someone will point out I'd I am mistaken and I thank them for the correction as to how Kirk became available). IF it was to entice people to return to the game that haven't played in X amount of months then I wouldn't have a problem. The problem here lies in the fact that people who have been playing regularly have recieved him duty whatever the circumstances are and others who play just as regularly are left out in the cold once again, just like with Pentafore Data.
You really think that a card with best character skills and one of the top 70 voyagers in the game will not influence events? There are Kirk events all the time and the potential for extra chrons from voyages will directly effect all galaxy, skirmish and hybrid events. That Kirk has been on my wishlist for a while and it is not available in portal. I know if I had him it would directly impact my event potential. Instead I get to see DB screw up (again) and they continually just point to the TOS instead of showing respect to their paying customers. It is just frustrating that they are famous for screwing up so much when they are one of the most expensive games out there and they don’t even show a measure of respect to the customers they gouge for digital products.
DB certainly have a strange business model. I wonder why I give them my money when I'm constantly treated like a second class customer with examples like this.
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Or two. Or three, with said citation idea.
P.S., still waiting for my Kirk.
Butter, butter, butter... free creamy deliciousness for all! lol
A 5* cite does nothing for ppl who have no survivalist kirk to cite.
Those who did not receive one or two copies, ( reports of 1/5 and 2/5 have been made) can be identified if a ticket is sent. They will check your acct to verify you did not get the ingame mail. That is how they can tell. If u dont send a ticket you are SOL up creeks without paddles.
HOWEVER they have said nothing on the matter as of this time. So sending tickets prematurely without DB confirming fair compensation by ticket process is likely to be a waste of time.
In an electronic game with servers, they must have a way to see where items are sent. Whether CS has access to that technology is the question.
I see sending a ticket one of two ways. One, a validation of a concern on the part of a consumer, or as Mirrorverse Jc points out, (2) a potential waste of time that clogs up the system as others hopefully investigate the identified blunder (which assumes CS takes part in that process).
And, if the mistake is a specific character, then a 5* citation is not warranted. Whether I have Amish Kirk or not, that is the alleged mistake.
At any rate, we will hear something at some point...maybe? lol
Of course, how Db handles it now, that is what matters. I do think like some of my fellows that a global compensation is rather pointless as it basically negates itself. If there is anyway for them to determine who got what and balance that, it would be the most fair way to go, and thats coming from someone who got the kirk.
We're not getting Kirk.
With regards to a view on DB's general competence, I'll paraphrase the late Senator Vreenak:
"To be honest, my opinion of DB is so low, they'd have to work very hard indeed to disappoint me."
I don't see any reason for DB to compensate the community at large.
/me ducks to avoid the flames.
This happens because cucumber/grape effect. If other person get present I want present too, but If I already have that particular present then getting it again is unfair because I already paid for it to get it before everybody else.
I think for some it's also the fact that it happens a bit too often and that in cases like this and Pinafore Data it might give a significant advantage in future events.
Personally, the part where I start to find it annoying is usually when people begin to submit tickets and some of them report being lucky while others get nothing. It's not the mistakes, but how arbitrary the official and non-official compensations for them often seem to be.
If they actually just sent a Kirk to everyone who has been offline for more than 10 days, if this was the first mistake of this kind or even if we could just be sure that nobody will receive one out of a ticket, there probably wouldn't be that much of a discussion here.
Fast forward to this weekend. People are mysteriously getting a Kirk that was previously offered in a Tuesday exclusive pack (if memory is working correctly I'm sure someone will point out I'd I am mistaken and I thank them for the correction as to how Kirk became available). IF it was to entice people to return to the game that haven't played in X amount of months then I wouldn't have a problem. The problem here lies in the fact that people who have been playing regularly have recieved him duty whatever the circumstances are and others who play just as regularly are left out in the cold once again, just like with Pentafore Data.
I hear you !
I had the same thoughts about that, why are people some damned upset because other people getting a present? In our fleet our maybe strongest player got him and the only thing I did was to make a joke about that in the fleet chat and then to congratulate him. Should I be angry? Why?
Nobody wins an event because of a free Kirk he is getting, nobody beats me in the gauntlet because of this free Kirk, be glad for them that they were lucky, next time its maybe you or me.
And as Emperor Borg Drone already said, the annoying part are the people complaining about it long and loud in the forum, and then they want to have more free stuff. Is that what makes you happy? A free card? A datafile that disappears when this game gets closed? Come on, go out and get a life!
Is that what makes you happy? A real life? Something that will disappear when you die? Come on, become a Buddhist!
(I just wanted to point out the fact that the difference between ‘real’ life and ‘virtual’ life is not that big as many tend to think. Especially when ‘virtual’ life involves large amounts of real money, it’s easy to understand why people so upset about something that is merely a record in a database)
A screw up by DB. But it happened so late on Friday that DB hasn't addressed it or decided what to do.
That’s never stopped people from breaking out the torches & pitchforks early, though, now has it?
You really think that a card with best character skills and one of the top 70 voyagers in the game will not influence events? There are Kirk events all the time and the potential for extra chrons from voyages will directly effect all galaxy, skirmish and hybrid events. That Kirk has been on my wishlist for a while and it is not available in portal. I know if I had him it would directly impact my event potential. Instead I get to see DB screw up (again) and they continually just point to the TOS instead of showing respect to their paying customers. It is just frustrating that they are famous for screwing up so much when they are one of the most expensive games out there and they don’t even show a measure of respect to the customers they gouge for digital products.
Part of me hopes they attempt to fix it. Part of me fears that some players will end up with three free copies of a card that I paid for.