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  • W.W. CarlisleW.W. Carlisle ✭✭✭✭✭
    She comes in as the #5 for Dip bases, off the top of my head. Mambo Picard was #5 with 747 (I'm an aerophile. That I know.) Chan. Gowron is #1. Locutus is #2. (Why does he not have the Communicator trait, btw? Locutus is Latin for "I speak" essentially.) Minuet and Opaka are #3 and #4, I think in that order.
    I've played three years. I have Gowron and Mambo. I will get a good amount of use for my new #2 for Dip bases, plus she's a 4/5 Romulan and we are coming up on a milestone extension.
    If anyone else is tracking how many collections need extended, I have eight down.
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  • Mirror CartmanMirror Cartman ✭✭✭✭✭
    Whilst actual stats may be lowish, she has an unusual combination, which more than makes up for it in voyages. At least she is not another com/sec/dip crew.
  • Prime LorcaPrime Lorca ✭✭✭✭✭
    Ivanstone wrote: »
    Stats are disappointing though. With a lil better bases it would have make a decent voyages crew. 😐

    So the crew has only, if any, some gauntlet use for newer players.

    Bigbook puts her as the #7 Gauntlet crew.
    Bigbook also puts her as the #532 Shuttle crew.

    I get that avoiding power creep is important but the latter stat is a little ridiculous.

    If a crew was good at both shuttles and gauntlet, it would be way, way overpowered on voyages. Those two numbers (shuttle and gauntlet) really should be polar opposites.

    She's what... the third legendary with any combination of ENG, MED, and DIP? And I think she's the first one with this unique order. SC Laris isn't nearly as good at voyages, but you can buy 0-4 copies for $25 (or $15 if you were going to buy the campaign anyway). You'll get a gauntlet crew who won't measure up to Stranded Quark or Dexa in other parts of the game. Which will be appropriate in many people's opinion because they played (or payed) hard for Dexa. Maybe Stranded Quark too. He's been in the game so long that I can't remember how he was introduced.

    Anyway... I'm borderline glad she's bad at voyages and shuttles. The gauntlet walls would be even worse if SC Laris were even more desirable.
    Farewell 🖖
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  • Zombie Squirrel Zombie Squirrel ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 2022
    Ivanstone wrote: »
    Stats are disappointing though. With a lil better bases it would have make a decent voyages crew. 😐

    So the crew has only, if any, some gauntlet use for newer players.

    Bigbook puts her as the #7 Gauntlet crew.
    Bigbook also puts her as the #532 Shuttle crew.

    I get that avoiding power creep is important but the latter stat is a little ridiculous.

    If a crew was good at both shuttles and gauntlet, it would be way, way overpowered on voyages. Those two numbers (shuttle and gauntlet) really should be polar opposites.

    She's what... the third legendary with any combination of ENG, MED, and DIP? And I think she's the first one with this unique order. SC Laris isn't nearly as good at voyages, but you can buy 0-4 copies for $25 (or $15 if you were going to buy the campaign anyway). You'll get a gauntlet crew who won't measure up to Stranded Quark or Dexa in other parts of the game. Which will be appropriate in many people's opinion because they played (or payed) hard for Dexa. Maybe Stranded Quark too. He's been in the game so long that I can't remember how he was introduced.

    Anyway... I'm borderline glad she's bad at voyages and shuttles. The gauntlet walls would be even worse if SC Laris were even more desirable.

    We got plenty DIP/MED voyages crew with way better stats. If her main skills would be MED/ENG i would agree. But with ENG as 3rd skill, she is almost useless in voyages, except maybe for newer players. She has a raw voyages score total of below 3,400. Any crew less than 3,500 total isn t doing much for most players.

    Better retrieve Dexa. 😉

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  • Prime LorcaPrime Lorca ✭✭✭✭✭
    Ivanstone wrote: »
    Stats are disappointing though. With a lil better bases it would have make a decent voyages crew. 😐

    So the crew has only, if any, some gauntlet use for newer players.

    Bigbook puts her as the #7 Gauntlet crew.
    Bigbook also puts her as the #532 Shuttle crew.

    I get that avoiding power creep is important but the latter stat is a little ridiculous.

    If a crew was good at both shuttles and gauntlet, it would be way, way overpowered on voyages. Those two numbers (shuttle and gauntlet) really should be polar opposites.

    She's what... the third legendary with any combination of ENG, MED, and DIP? And I think she's the first one with this unique order. SC Laris isn't nearly as good at voyages, but you can buy 0-4 copies for $25 (or $15 if you were going to buy the campaign anyway). You'll get a gauntlet crew who won't measure up to Stranded Quark or Dexa in other parts of the game. Which will be appropriate in many people's opinion because they played (or payed) hard for Dexa. Maybe Stranded Quark too. He's been in the game so long that I can't remember how he was introduced.

    Anyway... I'm borderline glad she's bad at voyages and shuttles. The gauntlet walls would be even worse if SC Laris were even more desirable.

    We got plenty DIP/MED voyages crew with way better stats. If her main skills would be MED/ENG i would agree. But with ENG as 3rd skill, she is almost useless in voyages, except maybe for newer players. She has a raw voyages score total of below 3,400. Any crew less than 3,500 total isn t doing much for most players.

    Better retrieve Dexa. 😉

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    Yep. Still glad she's terrible at voyages. SC Laris is pretty much a one trick pony. And you can get use with just one star. If you're new, you can have a unique voyager and freeze her later, comfortable in the knowledge that you +1'd four collections. If you have a deep roster, you can take one and maybe pick other options in the subsequent beholds. There's several ways to score a W here.

    With my bonuses, SC Laris is a top 15 gauntleteer and likely to get crit bonuses. She beats Dexa in gauntlet by 200+ points too. So... I'm kind of talking myself into buying the track. I'll definitely keep one Laris. We'll see how the beholds play out. Maybe I'll add stars, but I really hope the other options are better.
    Farewell 🖖
  • DavideBooksDavideBooks ✭✭✭✭✭
    6 second evasion seems good to balance out a sledgehammer crew. I don't pay close attention to ship stats, but maybe someone who does can tell us if she is good there?
  • Prime LorcaPrime Lorca ✭✭✭✭✭
    6 second evasion seems good to balance out a sledgehammer crew. I don't pay close attention to ship stats, but maybe someone who does can tell us if she is good there?

    Not as useful as another sledge hammer. Evasion won't help you dodge immediate damage, and at 6s, you're either cloaked, using the damage reduction glitch, or you're tapping your sledge hammers faster than than the other ship. If you're cloaked, that evasion actually hurts by cancelling your cloak. If you're using DR, then the redundancy is useless. If you're using sledge hammers, then you have one less than your opponent.
    Farewell 🖖
  • DScottHewittDScottHewitt ✭✭✭✭✭
    Guess who just got the Facer in one of the BeGolds in the Honour Sale?

    I'm liking that. Also, since the Premium Plus Track sounds like it will have plenty of stuff on top of Laris, might be my investing in it, too.

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  • AviTrekAviTrek ✭✭✭✭✭
    6 second evasion seems good to balance out a sledgehammer crew. I don't pay close attention to ship stats, but maybe someone who does can tell us if she is good there?

    6 second evasion isn't great. There are plenty of cloaks that provide better protection at 6 seconds. The 4 second evasion crew that can protect you before the D'kora speedup are more useful.
  • AviTrekAviTrek ✭✭✭✭✭
    6 second evasion seems good to balance out a sledgehammer crew. I don't pay close attention to ship stats, but maybe someone who does can tell us if she is good there?

    Not as useful as another sledge hammer. Evasion won't help you dodge immediate damage, and at 6s, you're either cloaked, using the damage reduction glitch, or you're tapping your sledge hammers faster than than the other ship. If you're cloaked, that evasion actually hurts by cancelling your cloak. If you're using DR, then the redundancy is useless. If you're using sledge hammers, then you have one less than your opponent.

    What is the damage reduction glitch?
  • Prime LorcaPrime Lorca ✭✭✭✭✭
    AviTrek wrote: »
    6 second evasion seems good to balance out a sledgehammer crew. I don't pay close attention to ship stats, but maybe someone who does can tell us if she is good there?

    Not as useful as another sledge hammer. Evasion won't help you dodge immediate damage, and at 6s, you're either cloaked, using the damage reduction glitch, or you're tapping your sledge hammers faster than than the other ship. If you're cloaked, that evasion actually hurts by cancelling your cloak. If you're using DR, then the redundancy is useless. If you're using sledge hammers, then you have one less than your opponent.

    What is the damage reduction glitch?

    The Proton ship and others with damage reduction can't be defeated until the damage reduction ends.

    It creates a paper-rock-scissors effect in Arena. A good Krayton setup can blow up a Proton before the DR triggers. A good Bounty/Valdore setup cloaks before a Krayton can kill it.

    That's why there's such a mix of ships at the top. So what I'm saying is, it's more of an exploit that would break the game more if it were fixed than it does by being there in the first place.
    Farewell 🖖
  • (HGH)Apollo(HGH)Apollo ✭✭✭✭✭
    Eww, terrible stats for a new card. Bleh.
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  • IvanstoneIvanstone ✭✭✭✭✭
    Ivanstone wrote: »
    Stats are disappointing though. With a lil better bases it would have make a decent voyages crew. 😐

    So the crew has only, if any, some gauntlet use for newer players.

    Bigbook puts her as the #7 Gauntlet crew.
    Bigbook also puts her as the #532 Shuttle crew.

    I get that avoiding power creep is important but the latter stat is a little ridiculous.

    If a crew was good at both shuttles and gauntlet, it would be way, way overpowered on voyages. Those two numbers (shuttle and gauntlet) really should be polar opposites.

    She's what... the third legendary with any combination of ENG, MED, and DIP? And I think she's the first one with this unique order. SC Laris isn't nearly as good at voyages, but you can buy 0-4 copies for $25 (or $15 if you were going to buy the campaign anyway). You'll get a gauntlet crew who won't measure up to Stranded Quark or Dexa in other parts of the game. Which will be appropriate in many people's opinion because they played (or payed) hard for Dexa. Maybe Stranded Quark too. He's been in the game so long that I can't remember how he was introduced.

    Anyway... I'm borderline glad she's bad at voyages and shuttles. The gauntlet walls would be even worse if SC Laris were even more desirable.

    The problem with Laris is she has only two functions: Gauntlet and Collections.

    In the Gauntlet she has solid stats but her top stat is comparable to four other Gauntlet crew and she has no 45/65 Gauntlets. Her best two stats don’t compete with her nearest competitor: Guinan. She doesn’t really standout out enough.

    Which is why it would be nice if she could do something else decently.
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  • Veterinary PhloxVeterinary Phlox ✭✭✭✭✭
    Laris' bases don't bother me. DIP has so many heavy hitters that Laris being competitive for base and also an awesome gauntlet crew would be overpowering (unless she was gutted elsewhere). And when it comes to shuttles, DIP/MED is rare enough I don't care. Sure, I wish she had more voyage potential, but I'm OK with a crew who excels at a particular niche.

    Facer Rios is a fun card, but I have Adira Tal and Bridge Officer #1 FFed, so I'll need to spend a cite for even a chance he's useful outside of PIC events. DIP/ENG is also one of my strongest pairs, and as much as I enjoy Rios, he isn't going to unseat Bad Luck O'Brien on my priority list. None of this is Rios' fault, but for my specific roster he's unfortunately relegated to shiny bling. :)
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  • W.W. CarlisleW.W. Carlisle ✭✭✭✭✭
    I already have Facer Rios at 1/5* lvl60? And, with a Picard event likely around the corner, he's very welcome. Plus, filling out my available immortal golds of main crew is a goal this year. I got Picard, Seven, Soji, and Dahj for Picard, but need stars for everyone else. I'm in.
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  • DScottHewittDScottHewitt ✭✭✭✭✭
    I already have Facer Rios at 1/5* lvl60? And, with a Picard event likely around the corner, he's very welcome. Plus, filling out my available immortal golds of main crew is a goal this year. I got Picard, Seven, Soji, and Dahj for Picard, but need stars for everyone else. I'm in.

    This season of Picard is already shaping up to have the possibility of a lot of new variants of people from the show.

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  • W.W. CarlisleW.W. Carlisle ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm curious about the special avatar. It's intriguing.
    I would expect something extra going on in early April for First Contact Day. Maybe an Endurance OE? We shall see.
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  • JhamelJhamel ✭✭✭✭✭
    My purrsonal favorite DIP-MED (even though she's only a two-skiller) is Jhamel (besides she's my favorite card in the game anyway, because ... well ... she's Jhamel). While Bones might be the best MED and Sato the best DIP, DIP-MED combination is still Jhamel for me. :)
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  • W.W. CarlisleW.W. Carlisle ✭✭✭✭✭
    We all have our favorites for one reason on another. I loved Ambassador V'Lar, but still haven't gotten. Jhamel is pretty cool herself though. I have two rabbits- Talas and Jhamel.
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  • SonjaSonja ✭✭✭
    Next campaign? Strange New Worlds theme? Any thoughts?
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  • W.W. CarlisleW.W. Carlisle ✭✭✭✭✭
    I would think SNW would be May's, but I'd be okay with it early. Maybe something with a The Motion Picture theme for the release of the Director's Edition.
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  • DScottHewittDScottHewitt ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 2022
    Sonja wrote: »
    Next campaign? Strange New Worlds theme? Any thoughts?
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    I'm kinda starting to like the black trim tops more than the "traditional" solid color ones. Are they for the cadets. maybe?
    I would think SNW would be May's, but I'd be okay with it early. Maybe something with a The Motion Picture theme for the release of the Director's Edition.

    Director's Edition is pretty good. The background sounds really "snap" with the new audio tracks without overwhelming the dialog and stuff. Although, I think maybe the screams in the transporter room are even more haunting and heartbreaking now.
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  • I'd love an SNW campaign, but I can see it being TMP in honour of the new version
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  • Veterinary PhloxVeterinary Phlox ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'd enjoy a SNW theme, although it is a little tricky with existing crew. For Legendary, we've already had Science Officer Spock, so either Bridge Officer Number One, Christopher Pike, or New Eden Pike.

    Of these, BO#1 seems the most likely to me. And I say this as someone who has her FFed, so I wouldn't benefit from her in the campaign.

    I'm curious how the extra tier will factor into this. If they're usually new crew, that opens up a lot of opportunities, especially for brand new characters.

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  • EnderWEnderW ✭✭✭✭✭
    I would bet it's a combo of LDs and SNW: so thinking the 5* is Christopher Pike and the Mega is Badgey (ie: the cards shown in the announcement image).

    Yes, I'm being very boring with my ideas this month.
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  • DScottHewittDScottHewitt ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 2022
    If it is a Campaign thing for Strange New Worlds, Doctor M'Benga would be perfect foe the third Track. He was only ever seen in a couple of episodes of TOS, but Roddenberry wanted to do a spin-off sereis early on, set on a Federation hospital ship. Doctor M'Benga was going to be a key character of the series, if not the lead. Since he appears to be prominently featured in Strange New Worlds, I would love for him to be an early addition to the game. He is long overdue. Yet another groundbreaking thing TOS did was have a POC as a doctor who was a doctor practicing alongside other doctors when in the contemporary world, most doctors who were African-American worked almost exclusively in "Black" hospitals. Or had just barely started to be "accepted" in "regular" hospitals and practices.

    {I also love that it looks like Doctor M'Benga might be a "Phlox style" doctor, from his trailer. He uses "contemporary" for his time period medicine, but also does not shy away from using more "traditional" treatments when indicated.}

    EDIT: So now there is "controversy" over the first names of M'Benga & Spock?

    https://blog.trekcore.com/2022/04/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-mbenga-spock-first-names/?fbclid=IwAR2EwNvnCGE-asM2JvfYEt3vrsDUT46fGcLGTm5U63W7kmQXD_eW-va3ypE
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  • ShanShan ✭✭✭✭✭
    The campaign has been announced :)
    President Of Earth, Chancellor Martok, and Federation President Rillak.

    Barring any change between now and when the crew is released, the stats for Federation President Rillak should be:

    FE 1/5, Level 100, CMD 977 (101 - 302), DIP 607 (52 - 252), SEC 323 (50 - 153)
    FE 5/5, Level 100, CMD 1367 (101 - 302), DIP 1055 (52 - 252), SEC 548 (50 - 153)

    "It’s A Lot to Live Up To. No Pressure"
    - Boosts Attack by 4
    - Initialize: 8s, Cooldown: 10s, Duration: 10s
    - Bonus Ability: Increases boarding damage | Trigger: Boarding
    - Equipment Bonus: Accuracy +600, Crit Bonus +200, Crit Rating +248, Evasion +525

    Traits: Politician, Cardassian, Bajoran, Human, Inspiring, Cultural Figure, Federation, Diplomat
  • DScottHewittDScottHewitt ✭✭✭✭✭
    Shan wrote: »
    The campaign has been announced :)
    President Of Earth, Chancellor Martok, and Federation President Rillak.

    Barring any change between now and when the crew is released, the stats for Federation President Rillak should be:

    FE 1/5, Level 100, CMD 977 (101 - 302), DIP 607 (52 - 252), SEC 323 (50 - 153)
    FE 5/5, Level 100, CMD 1367 (101 - 302), DIP 1055 (52 - 252), SEC 548 (50 - 153)

    "It’s A Lot to Live Up To. No Pressure"
    - Boosts Attack by 4
    - Initialize: 8s, Cooldown: 10s, Duration: 10s
    - Bonus Ability: Increases boarding damage | Trigger: Boarding
    - Equipment Bonus: Accuracy +600, Crit Bonus +200, Crit Rating +248, Evasion +525

    Traits: Politician, Cardassian, Bajoran, Human, Inspiring, Cultural Figure, Federation, Diplomat

    She the first Cardie/Bajoran/Hooman?
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  • AviTrekAviTrek ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Shan wrote: »
    The campaign has been announced :)
    President Of Earth, Chancellor Martok, and Federation President Rillak.

    Barring any change between now and when the crew is released, the stats for Federation President Rillak should be:

    FE 1/5, Level 100, CMD 977 (101 - 302), DIP 607 (52 - 252), SEC 323 (50 - 153)
    FE 5/5, Level 100, CMD 1367 (101 - 302), DIP 1055 (52 - 252), SEC 548 (50 - 153)

    "It’s A Lot to Live Up To. No Pressure"
    - Boosts Attack by 4
    - Initialize: 8s, Cooldown: 10s, Duration: 10s
    - Bonus Ability: Increases boarding damage | Trigger: Boarding
    - Equipment Bonus: Accuracy +600, Crit Bonus +200, Crit Rating +248, Evasion +525

    Traits: Politician, Cardassian, Bajoran, Human, Inspiring, Cultural Figure, Federation, Diplomat

    She the first Cardie/Bajoran/Hooman?

    Looks like she's the first Cardassian, Bajoran, Human. And the first Cardassian, Bajoran, Diplomat
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