i see a few comments saying dark troi. i just got her this week from the premium pulls from the sale, two copies in fact. is she that good or is it for sentiment ? im actually looking forward to next weeks bridal troi for the med/command.
my answer to the topic is admiral janeway. i have all the janeways except that one
Her MED tertiary is extremely rare for the COM/SEC combo (even across all crew rarities), she’s got good voyage power, and the crew art is one of the best in the game.
For example, I just sent out a MED/COM voyage where she’s holding down a MED seat with the Federation trait, which neither of my Reverend Phloxes could handle and couldn’t be filled by Pollard or Mycelial Culber because a SCI seat had Physician and the other MED seat also had Federation.
I think the biggest frustration of crew retrieval will be that you can only get crew in the portal and the portal rarely gets updated.
It's easy to plan around, at least. When those portal update do occur, I imagine a lot of folks will have a collection of polestars they've earmarked for new crew.
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Here's my list from the DNA sheet - looks like Changeling Martok might be a good buy? (I'd rather get Mirror Janeway...)
I miss being able to strategise about which crew could unlock which node. I've had the episodes finished a while now. I hope we get more so I can work on that again.
I think the biggest frustration of crew retrieval will be that you can only get crew in the portal and the portal rarely gets updated.
It's easy to plan around, at least. When those portal update do occur, I imagine a lot of folks will have a collection of polestars they've earmarked for new crew.
But portal updates are not on a schedule so hard to plan for it.
1. Sphere-Builder Presage - she's the only one I'm missing from the Delphic Expanse collection ... all other 7 crew I actually have immortal.
-> Polestar - Presage ... all other combos of her traits have multiple options, great I only need one, so the second I get it this is a done deal.
2. North Star T'Pol - She'd be the perfect target for the 40th Vulcan to immortalise, because she also hits The Wild West collection (she's the only one I'm missing there, but not all 5*s are immortal yet) and is a solid card in general ... only issue, is she in the portal?
-> Polestar - uhh ... Costumed, Vulcan, 5* still gives 5 options ... in retrospect she's probably not worth the "risk" after the first go. ... Oh, if I add Astrophysicist it might work!
So I think a pattern is starting to emerge in crew I'll target, the only one who doesn't fit ...
3. Stranded Quark - the only general 3-skill combo I'm missing (of the 20) for 5*s. So, just for the completionist's sake really at this moment in time, not sure I'd insta-cite him anymore but would love to have him hanging around.
-> Polestar - Ferengi, Survivalist ... an easy one, as long as I manage to get the polestars.
EDIT: Added the Polestars(?) needed.
I do not mean to burst your bubble, but unless I am misunderstanding how this works, using unique traits (Presage) to get crew like Sphere-Builder Presage will be quite challenging/frustrating via Crew Retrieval...
If Trait Polestars only come from Crew Constellations, then you would need that Sphere-Builder Presage Constellation first, which is about a 1-in-a-1000 chance. Then you have a 1-in-5 chance of getting that Presage Polestar and not one of her 4 other trait Polestars.
Too bad she is not Human, Federation, or Starfleet!
1. Sphere-Builder Presage - she's the only one I'm missing from the Delphic Expanse collection ... all other 7 crew I actually have immortal.
-> Polestar - Presage ... all other combos of her traits have multiple options, great I only need one, so the second I get it this is a done deal.
2. North Star T'Pol - She'd be the perfect target for the 40th Vulcan to immortalise, because she also hits The Wild West collection (she's the only one I'm missing there, but not all 5*s are immortal yet) and is a solid card in general ... only issue, is she in the portal?
-> Polestar - uhh ... Costumed, Vulcan, 5* still gives 5 options ... in retrospect she's probably not worth the "risk" after the first go. ... Oh, if I add Astrophysicist it might work!
So I think a pattern is starting to emerge in crew I'll target, the only one who doesn't fit ...
3. Stranded Quark - the only general 3-skill combo I'm missing (of the 20) for 5*s. So, just for the completionist's sake really at this moment in time, not sure I'd insta-cite him anymore but would love to have him hanging around.
-> Polestar - Ferengi, Survivalist ... an easy one, as long as I manage to get the polestars.
EDIT: Added the Polestars(?) needed.
I do not mean to burst your bubble, but unless I am misunderstanding how this works, using unique traits (Presage) to get crew like Sphere-Builder Presage will be quite challenging/frustrating via Crew Retrieval...
If Trait Polestars only come from Crew Constellations, then you would need that Sphere-Builder Presage Constellation first, which is about a 1-in-a-1000 chance. Then you have a 1-in-5 chance of getting that Presage Polestar and not one of her 4 other trait Polestars.
Too bad she is not Human, Federation, or Starfleet!
No, you're not bursting my bubble ... but the post was about a goal ... we can all reach for the stars.
I'm actually fully aware how hopeless the new system is ... I was writing a reply to Idol's post in the Ready Room and I also replied to someone in another post here on The Bridge ...
- Sphere-Builder Presage has:
1. Presage at 0.02%
2. Villain(1.08%), Innovator(1.04%), Tactician(2.12%)
3. Villain(1.08%), Innovator(1.04%), Cultural Figure(1.67%) ... etc.
Options 2 and 3 will be even more challenging to obtain ... because, I would need one each of the three Polestars ... and the accumulated chance of obtaining those is infinitesimally small ... kinda like a 5* behold in a Premium Portal Pack ... 1.27% * 1/# of 5-stars in the portal ...
Like I said elsewhere ... what it will come down to "can I target a specific crew with the Polestars I own? And I might be lucky to be able to add a star, but it might also mean I'm left with a new "meh" 1/5 ... just like a current 5* behold." this will happen once Quantum gets near max and I need to spend it if I want to remain economical ...
No, you're not bursting my bubble ... but the post was about a goal ... we can all reach for the stars.
I'm actually fully aware how hopeless the new system is ... I was writing a reply to Idol's post in the Ready Room and I also replied to someone in another post here on The Bridge ...
Presage is on my wishlist as well, so I feel you pain. I'm curious if one of the later upgrades to the system will allow folks to pursue a particular, chosen polestar.
I'm excited by the system, but it's sort of an improved and more controlled "behold" - it's still heavily RNG based, but with ability to manage your resources around it.
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I’m also looking (maybe after Dark Empath Troi) to get EV Suit Worf! pretty sure he’s the only Klingon, Starfleet, Marksman and 5*, the only others with those 3 skills being two 4* Ash Tylers. (which all seem like common enough traits to get polestars for) 🖖
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I’m also looking (maybe after Dark Empath Troi) to get EV Suit Worf! pretty sure he’s the only Klingon, Starfleet, Marksman and 5*, the only others with those 3 skills being two 4* Ash Tylers. (which all seem like common enough traits to get polestars for) 🖖
I would love "Assimilate This!" Worf too - but we will both need to wait until that next Portal update...
Another food-for-thought strategy is being able to target a useful crew with the free retrieval, while preserving as many polestars as possible.
I was surprised by how many 5* crew I have at 4/5 or 3/5 that have multiple hits with the 7 free polestars, though many of them aren't great.
I believe I could immortalize Mirror Data via 100% target using just 2 polestars (android & saboteur), but I was hoping to use that saboteur polestar for Saboteur Garak… so many possibilities!
I’m also looking (maybe after Dark Empath Troi) to get EV Suit Worf! pretty sure he’s the only Klingon, Starfleet, Marksman and 5*, the only others with those 3 skills being two 4* Ash Tylers. (which all seem like common enough traits to get polestars for) 🖖
I would love "Assimilate This!" Worf too - but we will both need to wait until that next Portal update...
And wait we will!........
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Here's my list from the DNA sheet - looks like Changeling Martok might be a good buy? (I'd rather get Mirror Janeway...)
I miss being able to strategise about which crew could unlock which node. I've had the episodes finished a while now. I hope we get more so I can work on that again.
Good luck in your search! 🖖
Thank you @IceCat! Fingers crossed something's in the pipeline...
With the luck i have i will most likely get the crew i want from a pull before getting the poles required.
But i hope to get Admiral Patrick and working towards Breen Kira once she gets in the portal
You might want to keep buying those honor beholds. Mobile Doctor can't be worked down to a guaranteed drop, and your best shot at him takes a VERY specific setup of polestars that'll be hard to collect multiple times over until you win the coin flip, because ALL Doctors have Mobile's traits.
Specifically: Going 5*+DIP+Hologram/Physician+Musician gives you a pool of Virtuoso Doctor and Mobile Doctor.
You might want to keep buying those honor beholds. Mobile Doctor can't be worked down to a guaranteed drop, and your best shot at him takes a VERY specific setup of polestars that'll be hard to collect multiple times over until you win the coin flip, because ALL Doctors have Mobile's traits.
Specifically: Going 5*+DIP+Hologram/Physician+Musician gives you a pool of Virtuoso Doctor and Mobile Doctor.
Well that's just another nail in the coffin of this new 'feature' as far as I'm concerned. Give us some gameplay please developers and stop pretending that this is a long requested feature by the players.
No, you're not bursting my bubble ... but the post was about a goal ... we can all reach for the stars.
I'm actually fully aware how hopeless the new system is ... I was writing a reply to Idol's post in the Ready Room and I also replied to someone in another post here on The Bridge ...
Presage is on my wishlist as well, so I feel you pain. I'm curious if one of the later upgrades to the system will allow folks to pursue a particular, chosen polestar.
I'm excited by the system, but it's sort of an improved and more controlled "behold" - it's still heavily RNG based, but with ability to manage your resources around it.
I just posted in the Ready Room thread ... I saw that someone else already did the maths for most likely combos of 2-3 Polestars for 5* crew (thanks!!).
i.e. if your Quantum is reaching max and you don't have a clear target, these crew will most likely be a decent target ... One of the more interesting crew to come out of that (for me anyway) is Seeking Spock ... someone I don't own but wouldn't mind a copy of really ... he has a number of "common" 2-Polestar combos.
Also ... my approach will be that these are crew I won't be putting cites on for sure ... those go to the rarer (collection) crew from now on.
If I can, I will try to target a bunch of purples so I can free up slots (Lefler, Seamus, Rigel Vina, Em3, a couple others)
Beyond that, I will probably try to finish collections.
If we can even get enough ism to get constellations.
I am even more worried about the RNG with scans, just to get constellations in the first place. It could take 25 days of failures just to get to a 50% chance of getting a single constellation, let alone a useful polestar!
I am going to take a step back and list out my most desired polestars:
1. Bajoran (for finishing my kira, odo and sisko variants)
2. Physician (everybody needs medical)
3. Trill (just 2 shy from getting all of them & a lot of them are unfinished).
4. Costumed
5. Prodigy
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If we can even get enough ism to get constellations.
I am even more worried about the RNG with scans, just to get constellations in the first place. It could take 25 days of failures just to get to a 50% chance of getting a single constellation, let alone a useful polestar!
That was the other issue with what Ben talked about. The drop rate for constellations is even worse than drop rate for legendaries in packs and the constellations are random with many that will not help you. It feels like for something he said was requested by players, it should not be so frustrating to those players.
If we can even get enough ism to get constellations.
I am even more worried about the RNG with scans, just to get constellations in the first place. It could take 25 days of failures just to get to a 50% chance of getting a single constellation, let alone a useful polestar!
That was the other issue with what Ben talked about. The drop rate for constellations is even worse than drop rate for legendaries in packs and the constellations are random with many that will not help you. It feels like for something he said was requested by players, it should not be so frustrating to those players.
It's crazy. If you have bad luck, you may only get 7-10 constellations per year, which may only give you a couple useful polestars that are needed to target the crew member of your choice. Then, even if you get lucky with scans and constellations/polestars, you still may need to get lucky on a significantly filtered retrieval (unless you manage to get it filtered down to a pool of 1).
It may take you a year (or more) to get 4 polestars you want/need and it will cost you $5 million credits (plus a bunch of quantum & ISM that will have built up over the year of waiting), and you still may not actually get the specific crew member you are targeting! Imagine waiting, planning, and getting frustrated for a year, only for RNG to return one of the other 2 or 3 crew options?!!! haha
After watching Ben's demo, I said this new feature is basically a convoluted way of creating customized begolds.
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Her MED tertiary is extremely rare for the COM/SEC combo (even across all crew rarities), she’s got good voyage power, and the crew art is one of the best in the game.
For example, I just sent out a MED/COM voyage where she’s holding down a MED seat with the Federation trait, which neither of my Reverend Phloxes could handle and couldn’t be filled by Pollard or Mycelial Culber because a SCI seat had Physician and the other MED seat also had Federation.
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I miss being able to strategise about which crew could unlock which node. I've had the episodes finished a while now. I hope we get more so I can work on that again.
Good luck in your search! 🖖
But portal updates are not on a schedule so hard to plan for it.
Probably Mirror Crusher
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I do not mean to burst your bubble, but unless I am misunderstanding how this works, using unique traits (Presage) to get crew like Sphere-Builder Presage will be quite challenging/frustrating via Crew Retrieval...
If Trait Polestars only come from Crew Constellations, then you would need that Sphere-Builder Presage Constellation first, which is about a 1-in-a-1000 chance. Then you have a 1-in-5 chance of getting that Presage Polestar and not one of her 4 other trait Polestars.
Too bad she is not Human, Federation, or Starfleet!
No, you're not bursting my bubble ... but the post was about a goal ... we can all reach for the stars.
I'm actually fully aware how hopeless the new system is ... I was writing a reply to Idol's post in the Ready Room and I also replied to someone in another post here on The Bridge ...
- Sphere-Builder Presage has:
1. Presage at 0.02%
2. Villain(1.08%), Innovator(1.04%), Tactician(2.12%)
3. Villain(1.08%), Innovator(1.04%), Cultural Figure(1.67%) ... etc.
Options 2 and 3 will be even more challenging to obtain ... because, I would need one each of the three Polestars ... and the accumulated chance of obtaining those is infinitesimally small ... kinda like a 5* behold in a Premium Portal Pack ... 1.27% * 1/# of 5-stars in the portal ...
Like I said elsewhere ... what it will come down to "can I target a specific crew with the Polestars I own? And I might be lucky to be able to add a star, but it might also mean I'm left with a new "meh" 1/5 ... just like a current 5* behold." this will happen once Quantum gets near max and I need to spend it if I want to remain economical ...
https://forum.disruptorbeam.com/stt/discussion/17548/crew-retrieval-introduction-discussion#latest
Presage is on my wishlist as well, so I feel you pain. I'm curious if one of the later upgrades to the system will allow folks to pursue a particular, chosen polestar.
I'm excited by the system, but it's sort of an improved and more controlled "behold" - it's still heavily RNG based, but with ability to manage your resources around it.
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I would love "Assimilate This!" Worf too - but we will both need to wait until that next Portal update...
He taunts me as well, like "you can't have cheesecake!"
I was surprised by how many 5* crew I have at 4/5 or 3/5 that have multiple hits with the 7 free polestars, though many of them aren't great.
I believe I could immortalize Mirror Data via 100% target using just 2 polestars (android & saboteur), but I was hoping to use that saboteur polestar for Saboteur Garak… so many possibilities!
And wait we will!........
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Thank you @IceCat! Fingers crossed something's in the pipeline...
But i hope to get Admiral Patrick and working towards Breen Kira once she gets in the portal
You might want to keep buying those honor beholds. Mobile Doctor can't be worked down to a guaranteed drop, and your best shot at him takes a VERY specific setup of polestars that'll be hard to collect multiple times over until you win the coin flip, because ALL Doctors have Mobile's traits.
Specifically: Going 5*+DIP+Hologram/Physician+Musician gives you a pool of Virtuoso Doctor and Mobile Doctor.
Well that's just another nail in the coffin of this new 'feature' as far as I'm concerned. Give us some gameplay please developers and stop pretending that this is a long requested feature by the players.
Or maybe Arachnia.
I just posted in the Ready Room thread ... I saw that someone else already did the maths for most likely combos of 2-3 Polestars for 5* crew (thanks!!).
i.e. if your Quantum is reaching max and you don't have a clear target, these crew will most likely be a decent target ... One of the more interesting crew to come out of that (for me anyway) is Seeking Spock ... someone I don't own but wouldn't mind a copy of really ... he has a number of "common" 2-Polestar combos.
Also ... my approach will be that these are crew I won't be putting cites on for sure ... those go to the rarer (collection) crew from now on.
Beyond that, I will probably try to finish collections.
I am even more worried about the RNG with scans, just to get constellations in the first place. It could take 25 days of failures just to get to a 50% chance of getting a single constellation, let alone a useful polestar!
1. Bajoran (for finishing my kira, odo and sisko variants)
2. Physician (everybody needs medical)
3. Trill (just 2 shy from getting all of them & a lot of them are unfinished).
4. Costumed
5. Prodigy
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That was the other issue with what Ben talked about. The drop rate for constellations is even worse than drop rate for legendaries in packs and the constellations are random with many that will not help you. It feels like for something he said was requested by players, it should not be so frustrating to those players.
It's crazy. If you have bad luck, you may only get 7-10 constellations per year, which may only give you a couple useful polestars that are needed to target the crew member of your choice. Then, even if you get lucky with scans and constellations/polestars, you still may need to get lucky on a significantly filtered retrieval (unless you manage to get it filtered down to a pool of 1).
It may take you a year (or more) to get 4 polestars you want/need and it will cost you $5 million credits (plus a bunch of quantum & ISM that will have built up over the year of waiting), and you still may not actually get the specific crew member you are targeting! Imagine waiting, planning, and getting frustrated for a year, only for RNG to return one of the other 2 or 3 crew options?!!! haha
After watching Ben's demo, I said this new feature is basically a convoluted way of creating customized begolds.