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  • Essentially, I paid $24.99 for 550 Honor = Simply, you are not doing us right.

    And how much did we spend for 50,000 honor?? Hmmm

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  • DB must NOT send another freebies to address this mirror picard blunder. It is not fair that some people get mirror picard (50k honor point value) vs I got mirror picard for (500 honor point value)

    DB should offer only replacing the picard with legendary citation or Troi or 50k honor points.


  • I am adding my voice here. I too spent $25 on the promise that I could not get the fifth * on Picard like every other mega event threshold card. This definitely is false advertising and will be waiting 24 hours to see what DB does to fix this enormous blunder before reporting to Play Store. It is clear by others posts that CS is not doing anything so I won't bother wasting their time. Just go straight to Google.
  • Lady GaghgaghLady Gaghgagh ✭✭✭✭✭
    On another note, I feel bad for Shan who has to hear the brunt of the complaints here. Shan, we know it isn't your fault. Just remember the frustration is not pointed at you.

    Trista

    I agree 100%. No one is mad or should be mad at Shan here. Don't shoot the messenger of course.
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  • IvanstoneIvanstone ✭✭✭✭✭
    If DB just kept it simple like some honor, dilithium or even an event or premium pack things would've been easier for everyone. Some people might feel they would've deserved more but a sufficiently sized cookie cuts down on the grumbling.

    To be fair to the player base they probably should give everyone who already had a 5/5 Picard appropriate compensation since they already expended real money or honour. And to figure that out, that takes actual work away from doing other things which creates additional problems later.

    For most people including myself receiving a Picard is fine. I wasn't really disadvantaged by the bug (got top 750) and despite the immense pile of immortals I'm sitting on, this was only my second 5* immortal.
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  • I am adding my voice here. I too spent $25 on the promise that I could not get the fifth * on Picard like every other mega event threshold card. This definitely is false advertising and will be waiting 24 hours to see what DB does to fix this enormous blunder before reporting to Play Store. It is clear by others posts that CS is not doing anything so I won't bother wasting their time. Just go straight to Google.

    Problem is google won't refund anything that was bought a while back, and if you bought the 5th Picard at the beginning of the event then its almost a month now.
  • I'm adding to the chorus. I only started spending money recently, but it was against my better judgement. Now I remember why I do everything for free. I got excited over my first FF/FE 5* and this fully deflated my enthusiasm for not only spending my money, but the month of grinding to make sure that money spent on the first week wasn't wasted. I will go back to being a casual player because I feel pretty silly now.
  • PallidynePallidyne ✭✭✭✭✭
    On another note, I feel bad for Shan who has to hear the brunt of the complaints here. Shan, we know it isn't your fault. Just remember the frustration is not pointed at you.

    Trista

    I agree 100%. No one is mad or should be mad at Shan here. Don't shoot the messenger of course.

    Its funny as I worked CS/TS for 10 years before being a missionary for a short time and then internal IT for 20 years. The lesson I did learn is that after 6 months, you know what you're in for with your customer base.

    No one is coming after Shan personally (or if they are they should not be), but I only feel bad a little bit because she's been in these dumpster fires before and keeps coming back. For her sake I hope the benefits are decent for her position -- as there are a lot of communications positions out there with a lot of other organizations. Maybe Boston isn't as rife with them as my city is.....

  • DScottHewittDScottHewitt ✭✭✭✭✭
    Shan wrote: »
    I understand that the compensation received for today's outage is not satisfactory for everyone, and I am forwarding your feedback to the team.

    We need better solutions for compensation, and working on that is one of our goals for 2018.

    While it is ok to express your frustration on this matter, please do so while also complying with our Community Guidelines. Thank you.

    Shan, as always, thank you for letting us know someone is listening. That is kind of an important message to share.....



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  • DScottHewittDScottHewitt ✭✭✭✭✭
    To follow up on what Shan posted earlier, all of us at Disruptor Beam are acutely aware that the Mirror Picard compensation that went out earlier today caused a significant amount of ire and disappointment among some players. We are also aware it's not just one concern, but includes a range of valid concerns including but not limited to perceptions on rewarding competitiveness, to citation redemptions, to players recently purchased the Double Your Crew Offer and others.

    I'm not promising that anything will be done specifically about mailed-out Mirror Picard, but I can tell you that we will revisit it internally AFTER we do the various server pushes/client restarts tomorrow. And at a minium, we will keep you informed on what our plans may be.

    In the meanwhile, I ask that you please keep your comments civil. It will make it a lot easier for us to parse through all of your comments.

    One possible suggestion?

    50K Honor, since that is what a 5* Citation costs.

    {I am not even going to suggest giving my {and other peoples} $25 back.}


    Scott


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  • Black PebbleBlack Pebble ✭✭✭✭✭
    One possible suggestion?

    50K Honor, since that is what a 5* Citation costs.

    {I am not even going to suggest giving my {and other peoples} $25 back.}


    Scott

    That has been suggested, and while there are some potential problems with that after-the-fact, those problems are something for us to resolve, not the players.
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  • To follow up on what Shan posted earlier, all of us at Disruptor Beam are acutely aware that the Mirror Picard compensation that went out earlier today caused a significant amount of ire and disappointment among some players. We are also aware it's not just one concern, but includes a range of valid concerns including but not limited to perceptions on rewarding competitiveness, to citation redemptions, to players recently purchased the Double Your Crew Offer and others.

    I'm not promising that anything will be done specifically about mailed-out Mirror Picard, but I can tell you that we will revisit it internally AFTER we do the various server pushes/client restarts tomorrow. And at a minium, we will keep you informed on what our plans may be.

    In the meanwhile, I ask that you please keep your comments civil. It will make it a lot easier for us to parse through all of your comments.

    there's nothing to revisit. it's not rocket science. moving every event participant to the next reward tier to compensate for the outage should be sufficient. as in top 1500 all get a Mirror Troi, and top 50 all get Mirror Troi x 2, and so on. but that would be fair, and DB doesn't do fair.

    i will patiently await your next empty promise.
  • I will wait patiently for this to be handled, but DB would be wise in my judgement to be overly generous to the players to make up for this debacle.
  • This Sisko1This Sisko1 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Hopefully any action can restore confidence. Alot of the issue is buyers remorse and the confidence that doing a double up offer in the future is worth it.
  • SoupKitchen RikerSoupKitchen Riker ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2018
    p377y7h33f wrote: »
    there's nothing to revisit. it's not rocket science. moving every event participant to the next reward tier to compensate for the outage should be sufficient. as in top 1500 all get a Mirror Troi, and top 50 all get Mirror Troi x 2, and so on. but that would be fair, and DB doesn't do fair.

    i will patiently await your next empty promise.

    Unfortunately, that is not sufficient. Everyone, regardless of rank, was given a 1/5* character. That is not the same as moving everyone up a reward tier. Those who can use Picard will keep him, but those who did not, should get a legendary citation. Then and only then, does everyone involved actually get a useful 1/5* character, which was the intent of the original gift.
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  • I’m now seeing on discord that some people got 50k honor added to their accounts when they sent a ticket in. I got told to pound sand. So glad you took steps to have consistent CS replies.

    Good to know.
  • XoiikuXoiiku ✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2018
    I’m now seeing on discord that some people got 50k honor added to their accounts when they sent a ticket in. I got told to pound sand. So glad you took steps to have consistent CS replies.

    Inconsistency leading to further inequality?

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  • Captain_WhoCaptain_Who ✭✭✭✭✭
    DB must NOT send another freebies to address this mirror picard blunder. It is not fair that some people get mirror picard (50k honor point value) vs I got mirror picard for (500 honor point value)

    DB should offer only replacing the picard with legendary citation or Troi or 50k honor points.

    No, that's too much CS work. That's a thousand or 5 tickets.

    Now, because they've ignored us and stayed silent for so long, it's too late to fix properly. There was a point where they could have swapped the character while in the inbox, but too many have claimed now for that to work well.
    [BL] Q wrote: »
    I'm willing to let Mirror Picard stay in my inbox till the day the servers are switched off as a constant reminder when I get tempted to DYS a mega event character in future

    Mine's still in the inbox, and will probably stay there. My Picard may only be 4/5, but that last star isn't going to do all that much for me right now anyways, and I'm starting to feel the same way, keep that reminder there.
    I think it was intended to be a surprise gift originally..
    . . .
    I don't think it was originally intended as a comp for the event and tried to 2 for 1 it..
    . . .
    I really do value the original intention and original motivation of the Picard..
    But the gift and the comp should have remained separate.
    . . .
    Originally, I do believe it was well intentioned..
    But I don't think all the ramifications were thought out and players who missed out on troi are boned the hardest (especially if already having Picard 5/5)

    I am glad I benefitted,
    But I could have easily been 1001 and I'd be here rightfully with pitchforks based on the CS reply being reported.

    I'm coming around to this view as well. I don't believe we'll ever get an answer if it was so, but the mail and response was just WAY too fast compared to every other DB reaction in history.

    And indeed, if this was the intention, in was a nice thought and should be appreciated, as short sighted and ill-advised as it was. However, that's also a terrifying thought. There was plenty of time to consider the consequences, and either going through with the action in spite of the consequences, or being unable to foresee them is quite telling.


    Sorry for the even longer post, I don't want these buried:
    I’m now seeing on discord that some people got 50k honor added to their accounts when they sent a ticket in. I got told to pound sand. So glad you took steps to have consistent CS replies.
    I’m now seeing on discord that some people got 50k honor added to their accounts when they sent a ticket in. I got told to pound sand. So glad you took steps to have consistent CS replies.

    Good to know.
  • Dr. AnomalyDr. Anomaly ✭✭✭
    edited January 2018
    I’m now seeing on discord that some people got 50k honor added to their accounts when they sent a ticket in. I got told to pound sand. So glad you took steps to have consistent CS replies.

    So, business as usual, then, for DB's Customer DisService?
  • p377y7h33f wrote: »
    there's nothing to revisit. it's not rocket science. moving every event participant to the next reward tier to compensate for the outage should be sufficient. as in top 1500 all get a Mirror Troi, and top 50 all get Mirror Troi x 2, and so on. but that would be fair, and DB doesn't do fair.

    i will patiently await your next empty promise.

    Unfortunately, that is not sufficient. Everyone, regardless of rank, was given a 1/5* character. That is not the same as moving everyone up a reward tier. Those who can use Picard will keep him, but those who did not, should get a legendary citation. Then and only then, does everyone involved actually get a useful 1/5* character, which was the intent of the original gift.

    well, my solution didn't include any free Picards. there's already a few reports that people are getting a 50k honor compensation through submitting tickets to CS. that cat is already out of the bag.

    i could care less for a 5th star on Picard. i pursued Mirror Troi for the gauntlet and tapping away to 623k VP and ending up 5k short because of the outage is no joke. that is what they have yet to resolve.
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