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  • WaldoMagWaldoMag ✭✭✭✭✭
    @Data1001
    Thanks for info. But I usually just stay in the forum and game. So I do enjoy reposts of graphics here.
  • NeemsNeems ✭✭✭
    Grant77 wrote: »
    Grant77 wrote: »
    The comment above by Unkie B should clear things up. They are a subspecies with distinct physiological differences that are more than skin deep, end of story.

    Thanks to Shan for removing the racist comments and getting the thread back on track.

    As if Shran was a geneticist. Judging from the comments on this thread, people getting race and species mixed up, etc etc it is not entirely certain that "a kind of sub-species" should be taken as gospel. Since they haven't had contact for some long period of time, and keep themselves largely separate, how likely is it that even the Andorians / Aenar know how different genetically they are? Since they can clearly easily interbreed (Talla, Thelin http://memory-beta.wikia.com/wiki/Thelin_th'Valrass) I'm not convinced at all!

    As I said above, Humans and Vulcans can interbreed. That means something in my field of Biology, but it doesn't hold any water in the Star Trek universe.

    To me, the incredible telepathic abilities of the Aenar mean that they are probably more of a distant relative than a recent branch off of the evolutionary tree. If the latter were the case, you would surely see some residual of telepathic ability in Andorians.

    Of course, this is a rather silly conversation, but I'm enjoying it nonetheless.

    Was there an Enterprise episode or two where they tried to explain that Humans and Vulcans couldn't originally interbreed and Phlox was working on figuring it out*? I could be remembering incorrectly, been a while.

    *I'm not saying that makes any more sense, for the record.
  • Neems wrote: »
    Grant77 wrote: »
    Grant77 wrote: »
    The comment above by Unkie B should clear things up. They are a subspecies with distinct physiological differences that are more than skin deep, end of story.

    Thanks to Shan for removing the racist comments and getting the thread back on track.

    As if Shran was a geneticist. Judging from the comments on this thread, people getting race and species mixed up, etc etc it is not entirely certain that "a kind of sub-species" should be taken as gospel. Since they haven't had contact for some long period of time, and keep themselves largely separate, how likely is it that even the Andorians / Aenar know how different genetically they are? Since they can clearly easily interbreed (Talla, Thelin http://memory-beta.wikia.com/wiki/Thelin_th'Valrass) I'm not convinced at all!

    As I said above, Humans and Vulcans can interbreed. That means something in my field of Biology, but it doesn't hold any water in the Star Trek universe.

    To me, the incredible telepathic abilities of the Aenar mean that they are probably more of a distant relative than a recent branch off of the evolutionary tree. If the latter were the case, you would surely see some residual of telepathic ability in Andorians.

    Of course, this is a rather silly conversation, but I'm enjoying it nonetheless.

    Was there an Enterprise episode or two where they tried to explain that Humans and Vulcans couldn't originally interbreed and Phlox was working on figuring it out*? I could be remembering incorrectly, been a while.

    *I'm not saying that makes any more sense, for the record.

    I honestly can't remember. Didn't Trip and T'Pol have a child? Was their genetic material stolen? I can't remember. That story was all kinds of messed up. That last season was so weird I'd lost it by that point
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  • Dirk GundersonDirk Gunderson ✭✭✭✭✭
    I honestly can't remember. Didn't Trip and T'Pol have a child? Was their genetic material stolen? I can't remember. That story was all kinds of messed up. That last season was so weird I'd lost it by that point

    There was the alternate timeline in season 3 (episode E^2) when they did indeed have a son and then the two-parter at the end of season 4 featured a baby cloned (poorly) from genetic material stolen from them (in Demons and Terra Prime).
  • DScottHewittDScottHewitt ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 2018
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  • ShanShan ✭✭✭✭✭
    Shan wrote: »
    Updated the OP with the following:

    Event factions
    Romulan Star Empire, Federation


    Bonus crew:
    • high bonus: event crew and Prisoner Katrina Cornwell
    • small bonus: variants of Mudd, crew with the Andorian trait and all Discovery crew.

    List of current additional Discovery crew:
    Suus Mahna Sarek
    Prospect Michael Burnham
    Away Team Saru
    First Officer Burnham
    Graduation Michael Burnham
    Tactical Michael Burnham
    Prisoner Michael Burnham
    Dr. Hugh Culber
    Desert Philippa Georgiou
    Armed Philippa Georgiou
    Captain Lorca
    Vengeful L'Rell
    Harcourt Fenton Mudd
    Torchbearer Rejac
    Sarek
    Lieutenant Commander Saru
    First Officer Saru
    Reinforcements Stamets
    Ripper
    Cadet Sylvia Tilly
    T'Kuvma
    Celebratory Ash Tyler
    Lt. Ash Tyler
    Torchbearer Voq

    Thank you for the list, @Shan.

    However, it’s worth noting that Commander Thelin is on the list, and while he is indeed bonus crew, as an Andorian, he is not from Discovery. And the other Andorians are not included in that list, either. (:

    Just in case anyone was wondering, since many haven’t seen DSC, and not all of us have seen TAS, either.

    My bad, not sure how it got there -_-
    Fixed, and the list is indeed for Discovery crew only as it is not searchable in the crew filter.
  • DScottHewittDScottHewitt ✭✭✭✭✭
    Grant77 wrote: »
    Shan wrote: »
    Updated the OP with the following:

    Event factions
    Romulan Star Empire, Federation


    Bonus crew:
    • high bonus: event crew and Prisoner Katrina Cornwell
    • small bonus: variants of Mudd, crew with the Andorian trait and all Discovery crew.

    List of current additional Discovery crew:
    Suus Mahna Sarek
    Prospect Michael Burnham
    Away Team Saru
    First Officer Burnham
    Graduation Michael Burnham
    Tactical Michael Burnham
    Prisoner Michael Burnham
    Dr. Hugh Culber
    Desert Philippa Georgiou
    Armed Philippa Georgiou
    Captain Lorca
    Vengeful L'Rell
    Harcourt Fenton Mudd
    Torchbearer Rejac
    Sarek
    Lieutenant Commander Saru
    First Officer Saru
    Reinforcements Stamets
    Ripper
    Cadet Sylvia Tilly
    T'Kuvma
    Celebratory Ash Tyler
    Lt. Ash Tyler
    Torchbearer Voq

    Do full galaxy events usually have event factions? What is the purpose?

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  • DScottHewittDScottHewitt ✭✭✭✭✭
    Shan wrote: »
    I will also remind everyone that personal attacks or any kinds are not allowed.
    Ignore if need be, report and please do not quote. Thanks.

    I apologize.


    Everyone have a nice day.
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  • UnkieB wrote: »
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    I'm a little hesitant to go for it on this event, but Mudd with his (Andorian?) space helmet is making me want to spend a good chunk of chrons to get him. I can now only hope their stats are good.
  • For CardassiaFor Cardassia ✭✭✭✭✭
    Art is good again but...I'm just not thrilled about the crew. I'll probably just do the thresholds and airlock all non-Cornwell crew. Unless someone has amazing stats.
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  • Grant77Grant77 ✭✭✭✭
    Neems wrote: »
    Grant77 wrote: »
    Grant77 wrote: »
    The comment above by Unkie B should clear things up. They are a subspecies with distinct physiological differences that are more than skin deep, end of story.

    Thanks to Shan for removing the racist comments and getting the thread back on track.

    As if Shran was a geneticist. Judging from the comments on this thread, people getting race and species mixed up, etc etc it is not entirely certain that "a kind of sub-species" should be taken as gospel. Since they haven't had contact for some long period of time, and keep themselves largely separate, how likely is it that even the Andorians / Aenar know how different genetically they are? Since they can clearly easily interbreed (Talla, Thelin http://memory-beta.wikia.com/wiki/Thelin_th'Valrass) I'm not convinced at all!

    As I said above, Humans and Vulcans can interbreed. That means something in my field of Biology, but it doesn't hold any water in the Star Trek universe.

    To me, the incredible telepathic abilities of the Aenar mean that they are probably more of a distant relative than a recent branch off of the evolutionary tree. If the latter were the case, you would surely see some residual of telepathic ability in Andorians.

    Of course, this is a rather silly conversation, but I'm enjoying it nonetheless.

    Was there an Enterprise episode or two where they tried to explain that Humans and Vulcans couldn't originally interbreed and Phlox was working on figuring it out*? I could be remembering incorrectly, been a while.

    *I'm not saying that makes any more sense, for the record.

    They had their DNA stolen and a child was born (in a surrogate?), but it died as an infant because of genetic anomalies or something. Obviously that was figured out in the near future, before Spock was born.
  • ShanShan ✭✭✭✭✭
    Other stats

    Lissan
    FE 1/5 level 100
    CMD 428 (269-542)
    DIP 754 (267-541)

    Time Loop Mudd
    FE 1/4 level 100
    DIP 195 (125-257)
    ENG 483 (158-379)
    SEC 480 (31-62)

    Commander Ellen Landry
    FE 1/4 level 100
    CMD 317 (69-238)
    SEC 356 (254-669)
    SCI 227 (57-111)
  • GhostStalkerGhostStalker ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 2018
    Wow, Landry's definitely worth immortalizing! I like the way Mudd's art looks, but I'm not sure I'll keep him.
  • *Nomad* {PoF}*Nomad* {PoF} ✭✭✭✭✭
    I wonder if there well be "event packs" for this week or do we have to make due with last week's.....
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  • *Nomad* {PoF}*Nomad* {PoF} ✭✭✭✭✭
    Oh, I see they are up now, nm :)
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  • I see that the artwork is deteriorating again. Lissan is alright, Landry is barely recognisable, and that Mudd is awful. It looks like his head is melting.
  • S31S31 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 2018
    I wanted to get Landry so that I could begin immortalizing her instead I got Lissan, at least her 1/5 is semi-useful with high base dip and for gauntlet.
  • NeemsNeems ✭✭✭
    Spocky wrote: »
    I see that the artwork is deteriorating again. Lissan is alright, Landry is barely recognisable, and that Mudd is awful. It looks like his head is melting.

    I think Landry looks quite a bit like the majority of her Discovery counterparts in quality. This Mudd looks better than the previous Mudd imo, because it's not got that weird thing they did to Mudd and Da Vinci where their beards looked like felt costume pieces. I had hoped he'd be wearing the helmet instead of just holding it, though.
  • Lissan is just what I needed! A 2-skill DIP/CMD! Oh.... wait...... Well at least the Mudd is good :D:D:D

  • Zetterbeard Zetterbeard ✭✭✭✭✭
    These characters do nothing for me. I would have went for Mudd if he were the threshold reward. I'm getting the last Cornwell and that's it.
  • GhostStalkerGhostStalker ✭✭✭✭✭
    Why does Landry have SCI?

    Her reaction to an interesting scientific situation was to shoot it.

    In her defense, she was there. Science by proximity!
  • Shan wrote: »
    Other stats

    Lissan
    FE 1/5 level 100
    CMD 428 (269-542)
    DIP 754 (267-541)

    Time Loop Mudd
    FE 1/4 level 100
    DIP 195 (125-257)
    ENG 483 (158-379)
    SEC 480 (31-62)

    Commander Ellen Landry
    FE 1/4 level 100
    CMD 317 (69-238)
    SEC 356 (254-669)
    SCI 227 (57-111)

    I need to see Lissan's stats immortalized before I know whether to drop money. But I don't think she is worth it. She might have a nice boost range, but her base stat seems low, I doubt it will go much beyond 1100, which isnt impressive for the primary stat on a duo stat legendary.
  • For CardassiaFor Cardassia ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nemeton wrote: »
    Shan wrote: »
    Other stats

    Lissan
    FE 1/5 level 100
    CMD 428 (269-542)
    DIP 754 (267-541)

    Time Loop Mudd
    FE 1/4 level 100
    DIP 195 (125-257)
    ENG 483 (158-379)
    SEC 480 (31-62)

    Commander Ellen Landry
    FE 1/4 level 100
    CMD 317 (69-238)
    SEC 356 (254-669)
    SCI 227 (57-111)

    I need to see Lissan's stats immortalized before I know whether to drop money. But I don't think she is worth it. She might have a nice boost range, but her base stat seems low, I doubt it will go much beyond 1100, which isnt impressive for the primary stat on a duo stat legendary.

    Lissan (New) 5* Legendary
    Fully Fused Fully Equipped Level 100 Skills: CMD 876 (269-542), DIP 1144 (267-541)
    Traits: Andorian, Aenar, Diplomat, Telepath, Civilian, Communicator
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  • Nemeton wrote: »
    Shan wrote: »
    Other stats

    Lissan
    FE 1/5 level 100
    CMD 428 (269-542)
    DIP 754 (267-541)

    Time Loop Mudd
    FE 1/4 level 100
    DIP 195 (125-257)
    ENG 483 (158-379)
    SEC 480 (31-62)

    Commander Ellen Landry
    FE 1/4 level 100
    CMD 317 (69-238)
    SEC 356 (254-669)
    SCI 227 (57-111)

    I need to see Lissan's stats immortalized before I know whether to drop money. But I don't think she is worth it. She might have a nice boost range, but her base stat seems low, I doubt it will go much beyond 1100, which isnt impressive for the primary stat on a duo stat legendary.

    The FF stats are always with the event notes in Starfleet Communications
  • I cant get excited about the characters, maybe Mudd, but yea Im just kind of let down. This whole event has had one character Ive really wanted to try for
  • DScottHewittDScottHewitt ✭✭✭✭✭
    Why does Landry have SCI?

    Her reaction to an interesting scientific situation was to shoot it.

    Sometimes you just need to


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  • DScottHewittDScottHewitt ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nemeton wrote: »
    Shan wrote: »
    Other stats

    Lissan
    FE 1/5 level 100
    CMD 428 (269-542)
    DIP 754 (267-541)

    Time Loop Mudd
    FE 1/4 level 100
    DIP 195 (125-257)
    ENG 483 (158-379)
    SEC 480 (31-62)

    Commander Ellen Landry
    FE 1/4 level 100
    CMD 317 (69-238)
    SEC 356 (254-669)
    SCI 227 (57-111)

    I need to see Lissan's stats immortalized before I know whether to drop money. But I don't think she is worth it. She might have a nice boost range, but her base stat seems low, I doubt it will go much beyond 1100, which isnt impressive for the primary stat on a duo stat legendary.

    Lissan (New) 5* Legendary
    Fully Fused Fully Equipped Level 100 Skills: CMD 876 (269-542), DIP 1144 (267-541)
    Traits: Andorian, Aenar, Diplomat, Telepath, Civilian, Communicator

    Just saying......
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  • IvanstoneIvanstone ✭✭✭✭✭
    DB why you no like giving full Galaxy Events a good character to chase after?
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  • DB makes it easy not to spend. A legendary crew nobody cares about, character wise, needs to have great status to lure regular spenders into spending. :p
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