Kol should have SCI. It takes smarts to turn Starfleet crew into good food.
Lol. Alas, that whole eating Georgiou’s remains was actually done by Voq and L’Rell. Kol just came in WAY later when they were on the point of starving again and gave them real Klingon food.
Weirdly enough, I’m also Vulcan Housewife. Also, RNGesus hates me, like really, REALLY hates me.
Just gotta read the fine print. And maybe the rest of it too...
Bonus crew:
• high bonus: event crew
• small bonus: variants of Georgiou, L'Rell, Garak, and Discovery crew.
In this case, i think the question was will she count in the three weeks following. Kol and Number One are listed, but Chancellor L'Rell and Section 31 Georgiou are not.
My assumption would be yes - they were bound to miss at least one on that long list. Any idea @Shan?
Kol should have SCI. It takes smarts to turn Starfleet crew into good food.
Lol. Alas, that whole eating Georgiou’s remains was actually done by Voq and L’Rell. Kol just came in WAY later when they were on the point of starving again and gave them real Klingon food.
And then they started eating their own people..........
"The truth is like a lion; you don't have to defend it. Let it loose; it will defend itself."
Just gotta read the fine print. And maybe the rest of it too...
Bonus crew:
• high bonus: event crew
• small bonus: variants of Georgiou, L'Rell, Garak, and Discovery crew.
There's about to be a four-week "Mega-Event" in Star Trek: Timelines. There are some more details here. When I say "the rest of the Mega", I'm referring to the three events that follow next week's event and make up the rest of this "Mega-Event".
It is quite unlikely that variants of Garak are going to have a bonus for the rest of the month!
I really want Captain Lorca. His event happened before I started playing. He will be bonus crew all week. If you make him the $10 deal any week during the mega, you can have more of my money. I'm really looking forward to this mega event. Please hook a brotha' up.
This will be the fourth event Mirror Garak is a featured character:
Ranked reward for the Liberty for All event as well as it's re-run, Faction event An Even Field, and part two of the Dominion mega event The Hand That Feeds!.
That's 5 total events. It's a shame some other old four star crew couldn't have a chance to be used in an event for a change.
I just checked... there's only one 4* Garak. Can we have a new 4* Garak so you don't have to keep reusing the same one? Garak might be my second favorite Trek character. And someone at DB likes writing him into the story. I hope they consider it after the mega.
Edit: Here's one possibility - Cardassian Resistance Garak. I'm sure there's more ideas in the Most Wanted thread.
Particularly because she was in ONE episode, with arguably poor writing. Also, as much as the forum makes it seem otherwise from all the discussion, every poll shows TOS is not one of the more popular series.
Just my 2 cents...
A) Because the one episode is the FIRST episode, without which NONE of the full series or movies are made. (Yes, I know The Cage was a pilot and not technically the first broadcast episode - but the point is the same.)
Because her portrayal of Number One is a template for how the other ST second-in-command characters were all foils in various ways to the lead characters. Perhaps this is not an unusual writing/acting approach, but it nonetheless formed the basis for future interactions in the ST universe. After all, they could have written the roles as being in lock-step with the Captains/Commanders every time, with only the tertiary characters acting as foils, but how boring would that have been?
C) For some, it's simply because she was Gene's future wife, and that's enough.
D) Polls? What polls? On this forum - proves nothing. In the world at large? That just proves that once TOS had established the universe, later writers could expand upon it and write with greater depth and make even better Trek (setting aside all arguments about the relative merits of the various productions). Also, the quality and message of many TOS episodes retain their impact even 50 years later. That tells me that TOS resonates with many people, even if they don't claim it as their favorite series.
To sum up - some people like Majel's Number One. Others will be thrilled to have Rebecca's version. No one is wrong.
This will be the fourth event Mirror Garak is a featured character:
Ranked reward for the Liberty for All event as well as it's re-run, Faction event An Even Field, and part two of the Dominion mega event The Hand That Feeds!.
That's 5 total events. It's a shame some other old four star crew couldn't have a chance to be used in an event for a change.
I just checked... there's only one 4* Garak. Can we have a new 4* Garak so you don't have to keep reusing the same one? Garak might be my second favorite Trek character. And someone at DB likes writing him into the story. I hope they consider it after the mega.
Edit: Here's one possibility - Cardassian Resistance Garak. I'm sure there's more ideas in the Most Wanted thread.
I have wanted a Revolutionary Garak as a 5* for a while.
Particularly because she was in ONE episode, with arguably poor writing. Also, as much as the forum makes it seem otherwise from all the discussion, every poll shows TOS is not one of the more popular series.
Just my 2 cents...
A) Because the one episode is the FIRST episode, without which NONE of the full series or movies are made. (Yes, I know The Cage was a pilot and not technically the first broadcast episode - but the point is the same.)
Because her portrayal of Number One is a template for how the other ST second-in-command characters were all foils in various ways to the lead characters. Perhaps this is not an unusual writing/acting approach, but it nonetheless formed the basis for future interactions in the ST universe. After all, they could have written the roles as being in lock-step with the Captains/Commanders every time, with only the tertiary characters acting as foils, but how boring would that have been?
C) For some, it's simply because she was Gene's future wife, and that's enough.
D) Polls? What polls? On this forum - proves nothing. In the world at large? That just proves that once TOS had established the universe, later writers could expand upon it and write with greater depth and make even better Trek (setting aside all arguments about the relative merits of the various productions). Also, the quality and message of many TOS episodes retain their impact even 50 years later. That tells me that TOS resonates with many people, even if they don't claim it as their favorite series.
To sum up - some people like Majel's Number One. Others will be thrilled to have Rebecca's version. No one is wrong.
I get what you are saying but it just seems so weird that people are getting so angry about not having Majel Barrett's Number One. We already have 6 Majel Barrett character cards in game! We have Enisgn Chapel, Doctor Chapel, Commander Chapel, Lwaxana Troi, Festive Leaxana Troi, and Ambassador Troi. So to demand that we have a seventh Majel Barrett character before we have even one Rebecca Romijn character when she is going to be in a current star trek tv show is just ridiculous. To say that you want Majel Barrett's Number One as well seems reasonable, but to demand that we get Majel's first is not.
I get what you are saying but it just seems so weird that people are getting so angry about not having Majel Barrett's Number One.
You keep mentioning people being angry. What I’m seeing is a lot of people are disappointed that after three years of requests for Majel’s Number One they may feel that best chance for getting her into the game may have past.
Personally I’d hoped that after we’ve gotten Pike, Vina, Spock and The Keeper that we would get Number One and maybe Boyce and Colt from the same episode. That doesn’t mean I don’t also want Disco Number One as well.
Part of what made Majel Barrett’s Number One so iconic was that it was groundbreaking for a woman to be considered ready to be second in command at that time. It was pioneering. I don’t believe ever again in TOS did we meet a female command officer in Starfleet (please correct me if I’m wrong) - though of course we did meet Romulan Commander Nevesa.
Part of what made Majel Barrett’s Number One so iconic was that it was groundbreaking for a woman to be considered ready to be second in command at that time. It was pioneering. I don’t believe ever again in TOS did we meet a female command officer in Starfleet (please correct me if I’m wrong) - though of course we did meet Romulan Commander Nevesa.
I agree. She was portrayed as a very strong character, at a time when women on TV and in movies were (more often than not) portrayed as overly emotional and not capable of handling the same types of jobs/duties that men were. She was also mysterious, and I think that sort of intrigue often leads to a strong fan reaction, as people want to know more about that character's background — you might even compare it to the cult following of Boba Fett in SW, who also wasn't on screen very much, but who had a similar enigmatic fortitude as Number One did.
Could you please continue the petty bickering? I find it most intriguing. ~ Data, ST:TNG "Haven"
Bummed that we're getting Disco Number One before we get OG Number One.
It’s certainly disappointing given that she’s been asked for since the game launched.
And this
I have a great respect for Majel Barret and for her to be overlooked as the Number One legend in favour of someone who's been in Trek for all of 5 minutes is just, srsly, I've no words. Out of all the DBs you have done, this is the most DB.
+1701%
And the fact that there are other Majel characters here makes it worse that we don't have the original Number One three years into this game - they clearly have the rights to Majel's likeness, would Number One specifically be any different?
What is it about this Majel Barrett character that made you love her so much and makes you so mad DB has not put her in game when we do have other Majel Barrett characters? Just curious, not criticizing.
Particularly because she was in ONE episode, with arguably poor writing. Also, as much as the forum makes it seem otherwise from all the discussion, every poll shows TOS is not one of the more popular series.
Poor writing? The Cage? I feel like it’s one of the strongest written episodes of the series. I believe it’s considered to be a great one by fans overall.
Part of what made Majel Barrett’s Number One so iconic was that it was groundbreaking for a woman to be considered ready to be second in command at that time. It was pioneering. I don’t believe ever again in TOS did we meet a female command officer in Starfleet (please correct me if I’m wrong) - though of course we did meet Romulan Commander Nevesa.
I agree. She was portrayed as a very strong character, at a time when women on TV and in movies were (more often than not) portrayed as overly emotional and not capable of handling the same types of jobs/duties that men were. She was also mysterious, and I think that sort of intrigue often leads to a strong fan reaction, as people want to know more about that character's background — you might even compare it to the cult following of Boba Fett in SW, who also wasn't on screen very much, but who had a similar enigmatic fortitude as Number One did.
The final episode of TOS actually featured a woman who was angry and stole Kirk's body, because women weren't "allowed" to command Starships.
Part of what made Majel Barrett’s Number One so iconic was that it was groundbreaking for a woman to be considered ready to be second in command at that time. It was pioneering. I don’t believe ever again in TOS did we meet a female command officer in Starfleet (please correct me if I’m wrong) - though of course we did meet Romulan Commander Nevesa.
I agree. She was portrayed as a very strong character, at a time when women on TV and in movies were (more often than not) portrayed as overly emotional and not capable of handling the same types of jobs/duties that men were. She was also mysterious, and I think that sort of intrigue often leads to a strong fan reaction, as people want to know more about that character's background — you might even compare it to the cult following of Boba Fett in SW, who also wasn't on screen very much, but who had a similar enigmatic fortitude as Number One did.
The final episode of TOS actually featured a woman who was angry and stole Kirk's body, because women weren't "allowed" to command Starships.
Kol should have SCI. It takes smarts to turn Starfleet crew into good food.
Lol. Alas, that whole eating Georgiou’s remains was actually done by Voq and L’Rell. Kol just came in WAY later when they were on the point of starving again and gave them real Klingon food.
And then they started eating their own people..........
Silly space orcs. Cannibalism is for humans.
Weirdly enough, I’m also Vulcan Housewife. Also, RNGesus hates me, like really, REALLY hates me.
Kol should have SCI. It takes smarts to turn Starfleet crew into good food.
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Lol. Alas,that whole eating Georgiou’s remains was actually done by Voq and L’Rell. Kol just came in WAY later when they were on the point of starving again and gave them real Klingon food.
And then they started eating their own people..........
Silly space orcs. Cannibalism is for humans.
And obviously it was a CHOICE on their part to continue it. Kol had food. Yet, L'Rell found friends in the larder when took Kat there........
"The truth is like a lion; you don't have to defend it. Let it loose; it will defend itself."
Alright I can’t keep quiet any longer. How do y’all know for certain this in Number One from Discovery and not Number One from TOS? You don’t. And how do you know Kol didn’t survive or isn’t somehow in season 2? You don’t.
Alright I can’t keep quiet any longer. How do y’all know for certain this in Number One from Discovery and not Number One from TOS? You don’t. And how do you know Kol didn’t survive or isn’t somehow in season 2? You don’t.
1 Players have been requesting her since launch and well before Discovery premiered. It's unfair and untrue for that request to be portrayed now as Disco-hate. I hope she gets added at some point. She occupies a prominent place in Trek history.
2 It's intriguing that she's characterized as a strong woman, given that her defining character trait was that she had suppressed her femininity to the point of being referred to as more like a computer than a woman. Today, we would read such a character as being gender neutral, perhaps asexual and/or aromantic. Going by the standards of the mid-60's, though, it's hard not to read her as simply a woman who sacrificed being a woman in order to have a career. I'm curious to see how Discovery explores all this (if at all).
And one quick remark about TOS:
It really should get more love around here than it does. I would encourage anyone who lacks enthusiasm for it to revisit some episodes. It's thought provoking, it's neat, and it's a whole lot of fun!
1 Players have been requesting her since launch and well before Discovery premiered. It's unfair and untrue for that request to be portrayed now as Disco-hate. I hope she gets added at some point. She occupies a prominent place in Trek history.
2 It's intriguing that she's characterized as a strong woman, given that her defining character trait was that she had suppressed her femininity to the point of being referred to as more like a computer than a woman. Today, we would read such a character as being gender neutral, perhaps asexual and/or aromantic. Going by the standards of the mid-60's, though, it's hard not to read her as simply a woman who sacrificed being a woman in order to have a career. I'm curious to see how Discovery explores all this (if at all).
And one quick remark about TOS:
It really should get more love around here than it does. I would encourage anyone who lacks enthusiasm for it to revisit some episodes. It's thought provoking, it's neat, and it's a whole lot of fun!
Didn't someone post from IMDb that she is transgender now?
"The truth is like a lion; you don't have to defend it. Let it loose; it will defend itself."
1 Players have been requesting her since launch and well before Discovery premiered. It's unfair and untrue for that request to be portrayed now as Disco-hate. I hope she gets added at some point. She occupies a prominent place in Trek history.
2 It's intriguing that she's characterized as a strong woman, given that her defining character trait was that she had suppressed her femininity to the point of being referred to as more like a computer than a woman. Today, we would read such a character as being gender neutral, perhaps asexual and/or aromantic. Going by the standards of the mid-60's, though, it's hard not to read her as simply a woman who sacrificed being a woman in order to have a career. I'm curious to see how Discovery explores all this (if at all).
And one quick remark about TOS:
It really should get more love around here than it does. I would encourage anyone who lacks enthusiasm for it to revisit some episodes. It's thought provoking, it's neat, and it's a whole lot of fun!
Didn't someone post from IMDb that she is transgender now?
Anyone can edit IMDb and that was most certainly a troll.
I’m always shocked at how many Star Trek fans hate TOS.
Hate is a strong word. I wouldn't say I hate TOS, but I'd say it can be tough for people born and raised several decades after TOS first aired to go back and watch it. It's very rough, can be very campy at times, can be all over the place tonally, and it's just so very different than the TOS movies, TNG and anything that came after it (obvious since Rodenberry spent the decades after TOS refining what was Trek).
I love the TOS movies (except V), they're far and away better than the TNG films (just my opinion) but outside of a few episodes I just cannot watch TOS. I say that as someone who grew up without cable television and whose first exposure to Star Trek was via my dad's collection of TOS on VHS. I saw the whole thing 3-4 times as a kid, but after first seeing TNG there was no going back.
If I'm going to try and get a friend into watching Star Trek, I'd probably tell them to watch just a few key TOS episodes, skip the rest and go straight to watching the movies, then TNG (maybe skip chunks of seasons 1-2) and so on.
It really should get more love around here than it does. I would encourage anyone who lacks enthusiasm for it to revisit some episodes. It's thought provoking, it's neat, and it's a whole lot of fun!
I watched the whole series for the first time last year. It's a good show. Keep in mind that the special effects are 50ish years old. There's thought provoking stuff and good interactions between the main crew. I also recommend giving it a chance for those who haven't.
As far as Number One, I would like to see both TOS and DSC versions. I would have liked TOS first, but since we didn't get it, can we have Talos IV Prisoner Number One at some point? (soon?)
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Lol. Alas, that whole eating Georgiou’s remains was actually done by Voq and L’Rell. Kol just came in WAY later when they were on the point of starving again and gave them real Klingon food.
In this case, i think the question was will she count in the three weeks following. Kol and Number One are listed, but Chancellor L'Rell and Section 31 Georgiou are not.
My assumption would be yes - they were bound to miss at least one on that long list. Any idea @Shan?
And then they started eating their own people..........
There's about to be a four-week "Mega-Event" in Star Trek: Timelines. There are some more details here. When I say "the rest of the Mega", I'm referring to the three events that follow next week's event and make up the rest of this "Mega-Event".
It is quite unlikely that variants of Garak are going to have a bonus for the rest of the month!
I really want Captain Lorca. His event happened before I started playing. He will be bonus crew all week. If you make him the $10 deal any week during the mega, you can have more of my money. I'm really looking forward to this mega event. Please hook a brotha' up.
Thank you,
Really big Lorca fan
I just checked... there's only one 4* Garak. Can we have a new 4* Garak so you don't have to keep reusing the same one? Garak might be my second favorite Trek character. And someone at DB likes writing him into the story. I hope they consider it after the mega.
Edit: Here's one possibility - Cardassian Resistance Garak. I'm sure there's more ideas in the Most Wanted thread.
Just my 2 cents...
A) Because the one episode is the FIRST episode, without which NONE of the full series or movies are made. (Yes, I know The Cage was a pilot and not technically the first broadcast episode - but the point is the same.)
C) For some, it's simply because she was Gene's future wife, and that's enough.
D) Polls? What polls? On this forum - proves nothing. In the world at large? That just proves that once TOS had established the universe, later writers could expand upon it and write with greater depth and make even better Trek (setting aside all arguments about the relative merits of the various productions). Also, the quality and message of many TOS episodes retain their impact even 50 years later. That tells me that TOS resonates with many people, even if they don't claim it as their favorite series.
To sum up - some people like Majel's Number One. Others will be thrilled to have Rebecca's version. No one is wrong.
I have wanted a Revolutionary Garak as a 5* for a while.
How about a 4* Garak from Rocks and Shoals.
You keep mentioning people being angry. What I’m seeing is a lot of people are disappointed that after three years of requests for Majel’s Number One they may feel that best chance for getting her into the game may have past.
Personally I’d hoped that after we’ve gotten Pike, Vina, Spock and The Keeper that we would get Number One and maybe Boyce and Colt from the same episode. That doesn’t mean I don’t also want Disco Number One as well.
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I agree. She was portrayed as a very strong character, at a time when women on TV and in movies were (more often than not) portrayed as overly emotional and not capable of handling the same types of jobs/duties that men were. She was also mysterious, and I think that sort of intrigue often leads to a strong fan reaction, as people want to know more about that character's background — you might even compare it to the cult following of Boba Fett in SW, who also wasn't on screen very much, but who had a similar enigmatic fortitude as Number One did.
Could you please continue the petty bickering? I find it most intriguing.
~ Data, ST:TNG "Haven"
Poor writing? The Cage? I feel like it’s one of the strongest written episodes of the series. I believe it’s considered to be a great one by fans overall.
The final episode of TOS actually featured a woman who was angry and stole Kirk's body, because women weren't "allowed" to command Starships.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turnabout_Intruder
IIRC, the first time we see a female Starship captain is in "The Voyage Home".
Correct, she’s the Captain of the Saratoga and goes on to play Geordi’s mom in TNG.
Silly space orcs. Cannibalism is for humans.
And obviously it was a CHOICE on their part to continue it. Kol had food. Yet, L'Rell found friends in the larder when took Kat there........
https://forum.disruptorbeam.com/stt/discussion/12923/announcing-the-empire-reforged-mega-event#latest
^thats why
It states #1 is from disco, not tos
And shows that Kol is from season one.
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He is from a different timeline........
Yes I get that. I was responding to the comment about him still being alive in the show...
1 Players have been requesting her since launch and well before Discovery premiered. It's unfair and untrue for that request to be portrayed now as Disco-hate. I hope she gets added at some point. She occupies a prominent place in Trek history.
2 It's intriguing that she's characterized as a strong woman, given that her defining character trait was that she had suppressed her femininity to the point of being referred to as more like a computer than a woman. Today, we would read such a character as being gender neutral, perhaps asexual and/or aromantic. Going by the standards of the mid-60's, though, it's hard not to read her as simply a woman who sacrificed being a woman in order to have a career. I'm curious to see how Discovery explores all this (if at all).
And one quick remark about TOS:
It really should get more love around here than it does. I would encourage anyone who lacks enthusiasm for it to revisit some episodes. It's thought provoking, it's neat, and it's a whole lot of fun!
Didn't someone post from IMDb that she is transgender now?
Anyone can edit IMDb and that was most certainly a troll.
With no TOS there is NO Star Trek uinverse.
Hate is a strong word. I wouldn't say I hate TOS, but I'd say it can be tough for people born and raised several decades after TOS first aired to go back and watch it. It's very rough, can be very campy at times, can be all over the place tonally, and it's just so very different than the TOS movies, TNG and anything that came after it (obvious since Rodenberry spent the decades after TOS refining what was Trek).
I love the TOS movies (except V), they're far and away better than the TNG films (just my opinion) but outside of a few episodes I just cannot watch TOS. I say that as someone who grew up without cable television and whose first exposure to Star Trek was via my dad's collection of TOS on VHS. I saw the whole thing 3-4 times as a kid, but after first seeing TNG there was no going back.
If I'm going to try and get a friend into watching Star Trek, I'd probably tell them to watch just a few key TOS episodes, skip the rest and go straight to watching the movies, then TNG (maybe skip chunks of seasons 1-2) and so on.
I watched the whole series for the first time last year. It's a good show. Keep in mind that the special effects are 50ish years old. There's thought provoking stuff and good interactions between the main crew. I also recommend giving it a chance for those who haven't.
As far as Number One, I would like to see both TOS and DSC versions. I would have liked TOS first, but since we didn't get it, can we have Talos IV Prisoner Number One at some point? (soon?)