As much as i like the artwork of Vina, i can t justify spending money to 5/5 her.
Her status isn t bad, but not as good as it had to be to lure me into spending. And her event re-run bonus value isn t too big as well, since i doubt we will see another event, where all Disco crew is bonus again.
Still happy to grab a 1/5 copy of her. As top 1,500 Skirmishes reward.
People said there would be no more Discovery mega events again after each one and yet more keep coming. As Discovery keeps going so will Discovery mega events.
There will be more Disco megas, no doubt. But events with 60+ bonus crew? That’s nice for those of us who have a lot of those crew and slots to put them in, sure. For everyone else, though, it’s already at a point I would call silly and would be even worse for the next one.
Assuming season 3 kicks off sometime in the spring, April would be the next Disco mega and I bet we’ll be knocking on the door of 70 Disco crew variants by then, plus the 9 that are released as event crew. At that point, there wouldn’t be a reason to thaw out 4* crew unless you wanted to run more than 4 shuttles at a time.
I was already able to run 10 shuttles in the faction event this mega. People complained about all the movement at the end of the event. It was everyone running an insane amount of shuttles because of all the bonus crew. I certainly hope this is the last mega with a blanket all characters that have appeared on DIS bonus. All Starfleet DIS, all crew serving on Discovery, all characters in season 3, there are plenty of ways to have a DIS mega while reducing the bonus pool to a more manageable size.
As much as i like the artwork of Vina, i can t justify spending money to 5/5 her.
Her status isn t bad, but not as good as it had to be to lure me into spending. And her event re-run bonus value isn t too big as well, since i doubt we will see another event, where all Disco crew is bonus again.
Still happy to grab a 1/5 copy of her. As top 1,500 Skirmishes reward.
People said there would be no more Discovery mega events again after each one and yet more keep coming. As Discovery keeps going so will Discovery mega events.
Didn’t say that we won t see another Discovery themed Mega, but do you really think we will have a Mega with 80+ Bonus crew? Cause that will be the Discovery crew total count(+-), when the nxt Disco Mega hits.
As much as i like the artwork of Vina, i can t justify spending money to 5/5 her.
Her status isn t bad, but not as good as it had to be to lure me into spending. And her event re-run bonus value isn t too big as well, since i doubt we will see another event, where all Disco crew is bonus again.
Still happy to grab a 1/5 copy of her. As top 1,500 Skirmishes reward.
People said there would be no more Discovery mega events again after each one and yet more keep coming. As Discovery keeps going so will Discovery mega events.
There will be more Disco megas, no doubt. But events with 60+ bonus crew? That’s nice for those of us who have a lot of those crew and slots to put them in, sure. For everyone else, though, it’s already at a point I would call silly and would be even worse for the next one.
Assuming season 3 kicks off sometime in the spring, April would be the next Disco mega and I bet we’ll be knocking on the door of 70 Disco crew variants by then, plus the 9 that are released as event crew. At that point, there wouldn’t be a reason to thaw out 4* crew unless you wanted to run more than 4 shuttles at a time.
Put it this way, both factions in this mega so far, I failed one mission each event. And one of those was over the course of four days
This might be TL;DR for some, but I want to explain how I approached the topic of Vina’s stats.
I tend to evaluate a new Legendary card by the stats at 1/5* FE, because of my personal spending choices (e.g. campaigns, packs, etc.) and accrual rate of Honor points (i.e. slow). For me, a useful comparison is to look at which active immortal Super Rare card(s) I could freeze, based on the ordered skillset.
Based on the above, I could free up one crew slot, at the expense of both stats and traits, if I were to rank <= 1500. Whether I choose to pursue the new card is, therefore, related more to my opinion of the card’s overall utility than to the stats by themselves or in comparison to another Legendary card.
Thank you for using your time to read this. 🖖
"In the short run, the game defines the players. But in the long run, it's us players who define the game." — Nicky Case, The Evolution of Trust
As much as i like the artwork of Vina, i can t justify spending money to 5/5 her.
Her status isn t bad, but not as good as it had to be to lure me into spending. And her event re-run bonus value isn t too big as well, since i doubt we will see another event, where all Disco crew is bonus again.
Still happy to grab a 1/5 copy of her. As top 1,500 Skirmishes reward.
People said there would be no more Discovery mega events again after each one and yet more keep coming. As Discovery keeps going so will Discovery mega events.
There will be more Disco megas, no doubt. But events with 60+ bonus crew? That’s nice for those of us who have a lot of those crew and slots to put them in, sure. For everyone else, though, it’s already at a point I would call silly and would be even worse for the next one.
Assuming season 3 kicks off sometime in the spring, April would be the next Disco mega and I bet we’ll be knocking on the door of 70 Disco crew variants by then, plus the 9 that are released as event crew. At that point, there wouldn’t be a reason to thaw out 4* crew unless you wanted to run more than 4 shuttles at a time.
I was already able to run 10 shuttles in the faction event this mega. People complained about all the movement at the end of the event. It was everyone running an insane amount of shuttles because of all the bonus crew. I certainly hope this is the last mega with a blanket all characters that have appeared on DIS bonus. All Starfleet DIS, all crew serving on Discovery, all characters in season 3, there are plenty of ways to have a DIS mega while reducing the bonus pool to a more manageable size.
It's also a good way to get these tokens and boosters burnt. All in all it's good for future events as it evens out the playing field, I'd say keep it coming DB.
This might be TL;DR for some, but I want to explain how I approached the topic of Vina’s stats.
I tend to evaluate a new Legendary card by the stats at 1/5* FE, because of my personal spending choices (e.g. campaigns, packs, etc.) and accrual rate of Honor points (i.e. slow). For me, a useful comparison is to look at which active immortal Super Rare card(s) I could freeze, based on the ordered skillset.
Based on the above, I could free up one crew slot, at the expense of both stats and traits, if I were to rank <= 1500. Whether I choose to pursue the new card is, therefore, related more to my opinion of the card’s overall utility than to the stats by themselves or in comparison to another Legendary card.
This might be TL;DR for some, but I want to explain how I approached the topic of Vina’s stats.
I tend to evaluate a new Legendary card by the stats at 1/5* FE, because of my personal spending choices (e.g. campaigns, packs, etc.) and accrual rate of Honor points (i.e. slow). For me, a useful comparison is to look at which active immortal Super Rare card(s) I could freeze, based on the ordered skillset.
Based on the above, I could free up one crew slot, at the expense of both stats and traits, if I were to rank <= 1500. Whether I choose to pursue the new card is, therefore, related more to my opinion of the card’s overall utility than to the stats by themselves or in comparison to another Legendary card.
Thank you for using your time to read this. 🖖
So based on this, how are you going to proceed?
"In the short run, the game defines the players. But in the long run, it's us players who define the game." — Nicky Case, The Evolution of Trust
This might be TL;DR for some, but I want to explain how I approached the topic of Vina’s stats.
I tend to evaluate a new Legendary card by the stats at 1/5* FE, because of my personal spending choices (e.g. campaigns, packs, etc.) and accrual rate of Honor points (i.e. slow). For me, a useful comparison is to look at which active immortal Super Rare card(s) I could freeze, based on the ordered skillset.
Based on the above, I could free up one crew slot, at the expense of both stats and traits, if I were to rank <= 1500. Whether I choose to pursue the new card is, therefore, related more to my opinion of the card’s overall utility than to the stats by themselves or in comparison to another Legendary card.
As much as i like the artwork of Vina, i can t justify spending money to 5/5 her.
Her status isn t bad, but not as good as it had to be to lure me into spending. And her event re-run bonus value isn t too big as well, since i doubt we will see another event, where all Disco crew is bonus again.
Still happy to grab a 1/5 copy of her. As top 1,500 Skirmishes reward.
People said there would be no more Discovery mega events again after each one and yet more keep coming. As Discovery keeps going so will Discovery mega events.
Agreed, but (and I think this was their point) we seem less and less likely to get a "all Disco crew" bonus in future events, now that we have a few variants for most characters
I see no reason to say it is less and less likely as Discovery is still going on and we will very likely still be having Discovery mega events. We will also likely have individual events with just burnhams being bonus or just sarus or other Discovery crew. I see no reason why having individual Disco events would stop us from having Disco mega events or why when we are having this Disco mega when there are so many bonus crew that we would not have another.
As much as i like the artwork of Vina, i can t justify spending money to 5/5 her.
Her status isn t bad, but not as good as it had to be to lure me into spending. And her event re-run bonus value isn t too big as well, since i doubt we will see another event, where all Disco crew is bonus again.
Still happy to grab a 1/5 copy of her. As top 1,500 Skirmishes reward.
People said there would be no more Discovery mega events again after each one and yet more keep coming. As Discovery keeps going so will Discovery mega events.
Agreed, but (and I think this was their point) we seem less and less likely to get a "all Disco crew" bonus in future events, now that we have a few variants for most characters
I see no reason to say it is less and less likely as Discovery is still going on and we will very likely still be having Discovery mega events. We will also likely have individual events with just burnhams being bonus or just sarus or other Discovery crew. I see no reason why having individual Disco events would stop us from having Disco mega events or why when we are having this Disco mega when there are so many bonus crew that we would not have another.
If next “Disco” event has a 5* John Travolta I will fist fight for that card!
Heres my farming list during skirmish. Its basically for pre-farming items for galaxy events with the following criteria
- Required in galaxy event
- I have less than 100 mats (which means its being used)
- N (Normal), EL (Elite), EP (Epic)
- DE (Delphic Expanse), KE (Klingon Empire), CT (Celestial Temple)
As much as i like the artwork of Vina, i can t justify spending money to 5/5 her.
Her status isn t bad, but not as good as it had to be to lure me into spending. And her event re-run bonus value isn t too big as well, since i doubt we will see another event, where all Disco crew is bonus again.
Still happy to grab a 1/5 copy of her. As top 1,500 Skirmishes reward.
People said there would be no more Discovery mega events again after each one and yet more keep coming. As Discovery keeps going so will Discovery mega events.
Agreed, but (and I think this was their point) we seem less and less likely to get a "all Disco crew" bonus in future events, now that we have a few variants for most characters
I see no reason to say it is less and less likely as Discovery is still going on and we will very likely still be having Discovery mega events. We will also likely have individual events with just burnhams being bonus or just sarus or other Discovery crew. I see no reason why having individual Disco events would stop us from having Disco mega events or why when we are having this Disco mega when there are so many bonus crew that we would not have another.
I was up extra early for work this morning, so I leave open the possibility that I am missing something here...nobody is saying that there won’t be another Disco mega or that individual Disco events are going to make Disco megas less likely. There is surely going to be another Disco-centric mega event when season 3 drops, plus others going into the future as more characters and possibly storylines come about.
What we’re saying is that future individual or mega events that are Disco-themed won’t be having “all Discovery characters” as bonus crew. Maybe it will be limited to certain characters (Burnham/Tilly/Stamets), factions (Section 31 or Klingon), or something else...whatever the criteria, there would be a lot of shock and confusion if future Disco events didn’t cut the number of bonus crew down to the 20-40 range. There are going to be three Disco event crew and 60 bonus crew...60. That’s completely nuts and causes a lot of score inflation that isn’t possible during normal Faction events.
As much as i like the artwork of Vina, i can t justify spending money to 5/5 her.
Her status isn t bad, but not as good as it had to be to lure me into spending. And her event re-run bonus value isn t too big as well, since i doubt we will see another event, where all Disco crew is bonus again.
Still happy to grab a 1/5 copy of her. As top 1,500 Skirmishes reward.
People said there would be no more Discovery mega events again after each one and yet more keep coming. As Discovery keeps going so will Discovery mega events.
Agreed, but (and I think this was their point) we seem less and less likely to get a "all Disco crew" bonus in future events, now that we have a few variants for most characters
I see no reason to say it is less and less likely as Discovery is still going on and we will very likely still be having Discovery mega events. We will also likely have individual events with just burnhams being bonus or just sarus or other Discovery crew. I see no reason why having individual Disco events would stop us from having Disco mega events or why when we are having this Disco mega when there are so many bonus crew that we would not have another.
I was up extra early for work this morning, so I leave open the possibility that I am missing something here...nobody is saying that there won’t be another Disco mega or that individual Disco events are going to make Disco megas less likely. There is surely going to be another Disco-centric mega event when season 3 drops, plus others going into the future as more characters and possibly storylines come about.
What we’re saying is that future individual or mega events that are Disco-themed won’t be having “all Discovery characters” as bonus crew. Maybe it will be limited to certain characters (Burnham/Tilly/Stamets), factions (Section 31 or Klingon), or something else...whatever the criteria, there would be a lot of shock and confusion if future Disco events didn’t cut the number of bonus crew down to the 20-40 range. There are going to be three Disco event crew and 60 bonus crew...60. That’s completely nuts and causes a lot of score inflation that isn’t possible during normal Faction events.
And I totally agree with you. There will be enough variants of each character to make it crew specific and way too many Discoers to make it Disco specific.
As much as i like the artwork of Vina, i can t justify spending money to 5/5 her.
Her status isn t bad, but not as good as it had to be to lure me into spending. And her event re-run bonus value isn t too big as well, since i doubt we will see another event, where all Disco crew is bonus again.
Still happy to grab a 1/5 copy of her. As top 1,500 Skirmishes reward.
People said there would be no more Discovery mega events again after each one and yet more keep coming. As Discovery keeps going so will Discovery mega events.
Agreed, but (and I think this was their point) we seem less and less likely to get a "all Disco crew" bonus in future events, now that we have a few variants for most characters
I see no reason to say it is less and less likely as Discovery is still going on and we will very likely still be having Discovery mega events. We will also likely have individual events with just burnhams being bonus or just sarus or other Discovery crew. I see no reason why having individual Disco events would stop us from having Disco mega events or why when we are having this Disco mega when there are so many bonus crew that we would not have another.
I was up extra early for work this morning, so I leave open the possibility that I am missing something here...nobody is saying that there won’t be another Disco mega or that individual Disco events are going to make Disco megas less likely. There is surely going to be another Disco-centric mega event when season 3 drops, plus others going into the future as more characters and possibly storylines come about.
What we’re saying is that future individual or mega events that are Disco-themed won’t be having “all Discovery characters” as bonus crew. Maybe it will be limited to certain characters (Burnham/Tilly/Stamets), factions (Section 31 or Klingon), or something else...whatever the criteria, there would be a lot of shock and confusion if future Disco events didn’t cut the number of bonus crew down to the 20-40 range. There are going to be three Disco event crew and 60 bonus crew...60. That’s completely nuts and causes a lot of score inflation that isn’t possible during normal Faction events.
But how can you say that future Disco Megas will not have all Discovery characters as bonus when none of the other Disco Megas did that and we have not heard DB say that? You and the others are guessing and you could be right but I see no indication that DB would change something that they have not changed yet unless there is some information other than there are a lot of Discovery crew. It just feels like you are saying the same thing that people were saying before this Discovery Mega and it was wrong. So why would it be right in the future? There were a large amount of Disco crew before this mega so more Disco crew has not changed the variables significantly in my mind. I do not see why DB would change the formula they have been using. To me it seems like a good deal for DB to keep pushing all Discovery crew megas because they can keep selling older Disco crew and because there will always be new Disco crew people will want and pay for. DB can also adjust which crew people use by making the skill slots in the faction events of a certain type to align with the skills of that event's crew like they have done many times before. Like how last faction event had a hige number of Engineering and Diplomacy-Engineering combo shuttles.
As much as i like the artwork of Vina, i can t justify spending money to 5/5 her.
Her status isn t bad, but not as good as it had to be to lure me into spending. And her event re-run bonus value isn t too big as well, since i doubt we will see another event, where all Disco crew is bonus again.
Still happy to grab a 1/5 copy of her. As top 1,500 Skirmishes reward.
People said there would be no more Discovery mega events again after each one and yet more keep coming. As Discovery keeps going so will Discovery mega events.
Agreed, but (and I think this was their point) we seem less and less likely to get a "all Disco crew" bonus in future events, now that we have a few variants for most characters
I see no reason to say it is less and less likely as Discovery is still going on and we will very likely still be having Discovery mega events. We will also likely have individual events with just burnhams being bonus or just sarus or other Discovery crew. I see no reason why having individual Disco events would stop us from having Disco mega events or why when we are having this Disco mega when there are so many bonus crew that we would not have another.
If next “Disco” event has a 5* John Travolta I will fist fight for that card!
Good job, whoever came up with this stupid Skirmish. NONE of my Level Ten Ships can complete the battles. {Krayton, Cube, Bounty}
One round in and it seems normal to me. What crew are you using?
Timekeeper for Bonus
Borg Queen
FO Burnham
Section 31 Lippy
Borg Queen requires Position for her bonus to work. None of the ships you mention grant Position. You either need a ship that grants Position or use a different crew.
FO Burnham has a nice burst, but 12 seconds to initialize is painfully slow. Do you have crew with faster initialization?
Leland is fine.
Do you have Killy or Rura Penthe Commandant? Locutus doesn't have burst, but his quick initialization combined with other burst damage crew can help eliminate ships quickly.
Good job, whoever came up with this stupid Skirmish. NONE of my Level Ten Ships can complete the battles. {Krayton, Cube, Bounty}
I was just thinking how easy this one was compared to others. Here is my setup:
Edit: Hit the time reducer, then fire all crew in order, then hit the ship accuracy boost followed by the ship defense boost. It takes about 6 seconds. I slightly adjust the timing as needed for specific ships.
I've only ran through 2 or 3 rounds, but it is working great.
Good job, whoever came up with this stupid Skirmish. NONE of my Level Ten Ships can complete the battles. {Krayton, Cube, Bounty}
One round in and it seems normal to me. What crew are you using?
Timekeeper for Bonus
Borg Queen
FO Burnham
Section 31 Lippy
Borg Queen requires Position for her bonus to work. None of the ships you mention grant Position. You either need a ship that grants Position or use a different crew.
FO Burnham has a nice burst, but 12 seconds to initialize is painfully slow. Do you have crew with faster initialization?
Leland is fine.
Do you have Killy or Rura Penthe Commandant? Locutus doesn't have burst, but his quick initialization combined with other burst damage crew can help eliminate ships quickly.
Dropped to Elite, using Defiant with Timekeeper, FO Burnham and T'Kuvma. As soon as Burnham is available, fire Timekeeper, Burnham, then T'Kuvma. Getting 4,000 VXP a run instead of the possible 6,000, but making it through every time so far.
Just be a slower grind.
{Section 31 Lippy is Philippa, not Leland. I just always call all her Cards Lippy.}
"The truth is like a lion; you don't have to defend it. Let it loose; it will defend itself."
Good job, whoever came up with this stupid Skirmish. NONE of my Level Ten Ships can complete the battles. {Krayton, Cube, Bounty}
One round in and it seems normal to me. What crew are you using?
Timekeeper for Bonus
Borg Queen
FO Burnham
Section 31 Lippy
Borg Queen requires Position for her bonus to work. None of the ships you mention grant Position. You either need a ship that grants Position or use a different crew.
FO Burnham has a nice burst, but 12 seconds to initialize is painfully slow. Do you have crew with faster initialization?
Leland is fine.
Do you have Killy or Rura Penthe Commandant? Locutus doesn't have burst, but his quick initialization combined with other burst damage crew can help eliminate ships quickly.
Dropped to Elite, using Defiant with Timekeeper, FO Burnham and T'Kuvma. As soon as Burnham is available, fire Timekeeper, Burnham, then T'Kuvma. Getting 4,000 VXP a run instead of the possible 6,000, but making it through every time so far.
Just be a slower grind.
{Section 31 Lippy is Philippa, not Leland. I just always call all her Cards Lippy.}
Don't give up so soon. See what other crew you have that can work. Section 31 Gergiou is not great with only 200% burst. Beyond missing 2k XP per skirmish, you are taking longer per battle then you need to. Saving seconds per battle adds up over the course of the event.
The final Warbird is dealing a LOT more damage than normal. I typically get through all the previous Skirmishes without taking hull damage; this one, the Warbird is taking out my shields and half my hull before I finish it off. It's still not a close battle (won them all) but it's closer than I like.
As much as i like the artwork of Vina, i can t justify spending money to 5/5 her.
Her status isn t bad, but not as good as it had to be to lure me into spending. And her event re-run bonus value isn t too big as well, since i doubt we will see another event, where all Disco crew is bonus again.
Still happy to grab a 1/5 copy of her. As top 1,500 Skirmishes reward.
People said there would be no more Discovery mega events again after each one and yet more keep coming. As Discovery keeps going so will Discovery mega events.
Agreed, but (and I think this was their point) we seem less and less likely to get a "all Disco crew" bonus in future events, now that we have a few variants for most characters
I see no reason to say it is less and less likely as Discovery is still going on and we will very likely still be having Discovery mega events. We will also likely have individual events with just burnhams being bonus or just sarus or other Discovery crew. I see no reason why having individual Disco events would stop us from having Disco mega events or why when we are having this Disco mega when there are so many bonus crew that we would not have another.
I was up extra early for work this morning, so I leave open the possibility that I am missing something here...nobody is saying that there won’t be another Disco mega or that individual Disco events are going to make Disco megas less likely. There is surely going to be another Disco-centric mega event when season 3 drops, plus others going into the future as more characters and possibly storylines come about.
What we’re saying is that future individual or mega events that are Disco-themed won’t be having “all Discovery characters” as bonus crew. Maybe it will be limited to certain characters (Burnham/Tilly/Stamets), factions (Section 31 or Klingon), or something else...whatever the criteria, there would be a lot of shock and confusion if future Disco events didn’t cut the number of bonus crew down to the 20-40 range. There are going to be three Disco event crew and 60 bonus crew...60. That’s completely nuts and causes a lot of score inflation that isn’t possible during normal Faction events.
But how can you say that future Disco Megas will not have all Discovery characters as bonus when none of the other Disco Megas did that and we have not heard DB say that? You and the others are guessing and you could be right but I see no indication that DB would change something that they have not changed yet unless there is some information other than there are a lot of Discovery crew. It just feels like you are saying the same thing that people were saying before this Discovery Mega and it was wrong. So why would it be right in the future? There were a large amount of Disco crew before this mega so more Disco crew has not changed the variables significantly in my mind. I do not see why DB would change the formula they have been using. To me it seems like a good deal for DB to keep pushing all Discovery crew megas because they can keep selling older Disco crew and because there will always be new Disco crew people will want and pay for. DB can also adjust which crew people use by making the skill slots in the faction events of a certain type to align with the skills of that event's crew like they have done many times before. Like how last faction event had a hige number of Engineering and Diplomacy-Engineering combo shuttles.
You’re absolutely right that those of us who thought there was already an overabundance of bonus crew were wrong about such a change being made for the current mega. And you’re right that there is no indication one way or the other from DB, so we’re running purely on speculation.
The reasons I think the next Disco mega will have a limited bonus crew roster are as follows:
1) If DB wants to retain new players that find the game in the months preceding the next Disco mega, it would make more sense to not discourage them from even participating because they are 40 or 50 bonus crew behind everyone else. Without a more level playing field, veteran players can run up the score and leave only those with deep wallets the ability to keep up.
2) For existing players, the need to buy special offers or event packs decrease as bonus crew availability increases. If you don’t need the new 4* to be competitive, the only reason to get that last star in a Faction or Skirmish is to free up a crew slot at the end of the month. For me, New Eden Owo didn’t make any shuttles in her own event until she was immortal and Runaway Po only made it on a few shuttles at 3/4*, depending on how I used BO#1.
In essence, while VP scores remain high I think having too many bonus crew is going to reduce multiple sources of income for DB...I suppose they will know for sure after they’ve tabulated the results this month.
Here's my crappy lineup, if I can do it with that, anyone can. The clown can be replaced with any short activation evade crew, and khan with any +x% damage. The only important crew is the Duras sisters, and they're not really difficult to fuse and gear up.
It's really trivial to play, just activate Tenavik, the clown, then the Duras sister and both instant damage.
Did something a little different this time. {Never thought of it in a Skirmish before}
I farmed some of the Space Battles that drop stuff common for Galaxy Events, to reload. Then, I decided to check out Fugitive Burnham for Items that dropped from Space Battles to Craft her Equipment. Replicated what I could not get that way. Got over 150,000 Points in the Event doing it that way.
Ended up with her Level 100, Fully Equipped:
"The truth is like a lion; you don't have to defend it. Let it loose; it will defend itself."
As much as i like the artwork of Vina, i can t justify spending money to 5/5 her.
Her status isn t bad, but not as good as it had to be to lure me into spending. And her event re-run bonus value isn t too big as well, since i doubt we will see another event, where all Disco crew is bonus again.
Still happy to grab a 1/5 copy of her. As top 1,500 Skirmishes reward.
People said there would be no more Discovery mega events again after each one and yet more keep coming. As Discovery keeps going so will Discovery mega events.
Agreed, but (and I think this was their point) we seem less and less likely to get a "all Disco crew" bonus in future events, now that we have a few variants for most characters
I see no reason to say it is less and less likely as Discovery is still going on and we will very likely still be having Discovery mega events. We will also likely have individual events with just burnhams being bonus or just sarus or other Discovery crew. I see no reason why having individual Disco events would stop us from having Disco mega events or why when we are having this Disco mega when there are so many bonus crew that we would not have another.
I was up extra early for work this morning, so I leave open the possibility that I am missing something here...nobody is saying that there won’t be another Disco mega or that individual Disco events are going to make Disco megas less likely. There is surely going to be another Disco-centric mega event when season 3 drops, plus others going into the future as more characters and possibly storylines come about.
What we’re saying is that future individual or mega events that are Disco-themed won’t be having “all Discovery characters” as bonus crew. Maybe it will be limited to certain characters (Burnham/Tilly/Stamets), factions (Section 31 or Klingon), or something else...whatever the criteria, there would be a lot of shock and confusion if future Disco events didn’t cut the number of bonus crew down to the 20-40 range. There are going to be three Disco event crew and 60 bonus crew...60. That’s completely nuts and causes a lot of score inflation that isn’t possible during normal Faction events.
But how can you say that future Disco Megas will not have all Discovery characters as bonus when none of the other Disco Megas did that and we have not heard DB say that? You and the others are guessing and you could be right but I see no indication that DB would change something that they have not changed yet unless there is some information other than there are a lot of Discovery crew. It just feels like you are saying the same thing that people were saying before this Discovery Mega and it was wrong. So why would it be right in the future? There were a large amount of Disco crew before this mega so more Disco crew has not changed the variables significantly in my mind. I do not see why DB would change the formula they have been using. To me it seems like a good deal for DB to keep pushing all Discovery crew megas because they can keep selling older Disco crew and because there will always be new Disco crew people will want and pay for. DB can also adjust which crew people use by making the skill slots in the faction events of a certain type to align with the skills of that event's crew like they have done many times before. Like how last faction event had a hige number of Engineering and Diplomacy-Engineering combo shuttles.
You’re absolutely right that those of us who thought there was already an overabundance of bonus crew were wrong about such a change being made for the current mega. And you’re right that there is no indication one way or the other from DB, so we’re running purely on speculation.
The reasons I think the next Disco mega will have a limited bonus crew roster are as follows:
1) If DB wants to retain new players that find the game in the months preceding the next Disco mega, it would make more sense to not discourage them from even participating because they are 40 or 50 bonus crew behind everyone else. Without a more level playing field, veteran players can run up the score and leave only those with deep wallets the ability to keep up.
2) For existing players, the need to buy special offers or event packs decrease as bonus crew availability increases. If you don’t need the new 4* to be competitive, the only reason to get that last star in a Faction or Skirmish is to free up a crew slot at the end of the month. For me, New Eden Owo didn’t make any shuttles in her own event until she was immortal and Runaway Po only made it on a few shuttles at 3/4*, depending on how I used BO#1.
In essence, while VP scores remain high I think having too many bonus crew is going to reduce multiple sources of income for DB...I suppose they will know for sure after they’ve tabulated the results this month.
To your first point, new players are behind and at tough odds for any event. To your second point, how angry would players who already bought Disco crew be if DB said they no longer provided bonus? How much in future sales would that cost them? I guess we will see one way or the other who is right and who is still cool but less right.
All I know is that I dig large bonus crew pools and I hope we eventually get a TOS-themed mega that lets me load up shuttles with Apollo, Gorn Captain, The Keeper, Young Khan, etc.
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I was already able to run 10 shuttles in the faction event this mega. People complained about all the movement at the end of the event. It was everyone running an insane amount of shuttles because of all the bonus crew. I certainly hope this is the last mega with a blanket all characters that have appeared on DIS bonus. All Starfleet DIS, all crew serving on Discovery, all characters in season 3, there are plenty of ways to have a DIS mega while reducing the bonus pool to a more manageable size.
Didn’t say that we won t see another Discovery themed Mega, but do you really think we will have a Mega with 80+ Bonus crew? Cause that will be the Discovery crew total count(+-), when the nxt Disco Mega hits.
Put it this way, both factions in this mega so far, I failed one mission each event. And one of those was over the course of four days
I tend to evaluate a new Legendary card by the stats at 1/5* FE, because of my personal spending choices (e.g. campaigns, packs, etc.) and accrual rate of Honor points (i.e. slow). For me, a useful comparison is to look at which active immortal Super Rare card(s) I could freeze, based on the ordered skillset.
Here’s an example for Vina:
5* Vina
FE 1/5 level 100 DIP 897 (225-456), SCI 258 (106-216), MED 383 (183-413)
Traits: Human, Civilian, Romantic, Desperate, Diplomat
4* Zora
FE 4/4 level 100 DIP 883 (72-167) SCI 392 (100-192) MED 549 (122-381)
Traits: Hologram, Costumed, Federation, Starfleet, Romantic, Communicator
4* Mintakan Troi
FE 4/4 level 100 DIP 947 (159-328) SCI 307 (69-219) MED 604 (101-249)
Traits: Federation, Starfleet, Human, Betazoid, Empath, Counselor, Caregiver, Undercover Operative, Prisoner, Merchant, Mintakan, Vulcan, Costumed
Based on the above, I could free up one crew slot, at the expense of both stats and traits, if I were to rank <= 1500. Whether I choose to pursue the new card is, therefore, related more to my opinion of the card’s overall utility than to the stats by themselves or in comparison to another Legendary card.
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It's also a good way to get these tokens and boosters burnt. All in all it's good for future events as it evens out the playing field, I'd say keep it coming DB.
So based on this, how are you going to proceed?
I’m going to guess you’re going to freeze Zora
I see no reason to say it is less and less likely as Discovery is still going on and we will very likely still be having Discovery mega events. We will also likely have individual events with just burnhams being bonus or just sarus or other Discovery crew. I see no reason why having individual Disco events would stop us from having Disco mega events or why when we are having this Disco mega when there are so many bonus crew that we would not have another.
If next “Disco” event has a 5* John Travolta I will fist fight for that card!
I was up extra early for work this morning, so I leave open the possibility that I am missing something here...nobody is saying that there won’t be another Disco mega or that individual Disco events are going to make Disco megas less likely. There is surely going to be another Disco-centric mega event when season 3 drops, plus others going into the future as more characters and possibly storylines come about.
What we’re saying is that future individual or mega events that are Disco-themed won’t be having “all Discovery characters” as bonus crew. Maybe it will be limited to certain characters (Burnham/Tilly/Stamets), factions (Section 31 or Klingon), or something else...whatever the criteria, there would be a lot of shock and confusion if future Disco events didn’t cut the number of bonus crew down to the 20-40 range. There are going to be three Disco event crew and 60 bonus crew...60. That’s completely nuts and causes a lot of score inflation that isn’t possible during normal Faction events.
And I totally agree with you. There will be enough variants of each character to make it crew specific and way too many Discoers to make it Disco specific.
But how can you say that future Disco Megas will not have all Discovery characters as bonus when none of the other Disco Megas did that and we have not heard DB say that? You and the others are guessing and you could be right but I see no indication that DB would change something that they have not changed yet unless there is some information other than there are a lot of Discovery crew. It just feels like you are saying the same thing that people were saying before this Discovery Mega and it was wrong. So why would it be right in the future? There were a large amount of Disco crew before this mega so more Disco crew has not changed the variables significantly in my mind. I do not see why DB would change the formula they have been using. To me it seems like a good deal for DB to keep pushing all Discovery crew megas because they can keep selling older Disco crew and because there will always be new Disco crew people will want and pay for. DB can also adjust which crew people use by making the skill slots in the faction events of a certain type to align with the skills of that event's crew like they have done many times before. Like how last faction event had a hige number of Engineering and Diplomacy-Engineering combo shuttles.
One round in and it seems normal to me. What crew are you using?
Timekeeper for Bonus
Borg Queen
FO Burnham
Section 31 Lippy
Borg Queen requires Position for her bonus to work. None of the ships you mention grant Position. You either need a ship that grants Position or use a different crew.
FO Burnham has a nice burst, but 12 seconds to initialize is painfully slow. Do you have crew with faster initialization?
Leland is fine.
Do you have Killy or Rura Penthe Commandant? Locutus doesn't have burst, but his quick initialization combined with other burst damage crew can help eliminate ships quickly.
I was just thinking how easy this one was compared to others. Here is my setup:
Edit: Hit the time reducer, then fire all crew in order, then hit the ship accuracy boost followed by the ship defense boost. It takes about 6 seconds. I slightly adjust the timing as needed for specific ships.
I've only ran through 2 or 3 rounds, but it is working great.
Dropped to Elite, using Defiant with Timekeeper, FO Burnham and T'Kuvma. As soon as Burnham is available, fire Timekeeper, Burnham, then T'Kuvma. Getting 4,000 VXP a run instead of the possible 6,000, but making it through every time so far.
Just be a slower grind.
{Section 31 Lippy is Philippa, not Leland. I just always call all her Cards Lippy.}
Don't give up so soon. See what other crew you have that can work. Section 31 Gergiou is not great with only 200% burst. Beyond missing 2k XP per skirmish, you are taking longer per battle then you need to. Saving seconds per battle adds up over the course of the event.
You’re absolutely right that those of us who thought there was already an overabundance of bonus crew were wrong about such a change being made for the current mega. And you’re right that there is no indication one way or the other from DB, so we’re running purely on speculation.
The reasons I think the next Disco mega will have a limited bonus crew roster are as follows:
1) If DB wants to retain new players that find the game in the months preceding the next Disco mega, it would make more sense to not discourage them from even participating because they are 40 or 50 bonus crew behind everyone else. Without a more level playing field, veteran players can run up the score and leave only those with deep wallets the ability to keep up.
2) For existing players, the need to buy special offers or event packs decrease as bonus crew availability increases. If you don’t need the new 4* to be competitive, the only reason to get that last star in a Faction or Skirmish is to free up a crew slot at the end of the month. For me, New Eden Owo didn’t make any shuttles in her own event until she was immortal and Runaway Po only made it on a few shuttles at 3/4*, depending on how I used BO#1.
In essence, while VP scores remain high I think having too many bonus crew is going to reduce multiple sources of income for DB...I suppose they will know for sure after they’ve tabulated the results this month.
Here's my crappy lineup, if I can do it with that, anyone can. The clown can be replaced with any short activation evade crew, and khan with any +x% damage. The only important crew is the Duras sisters, and they're not really difficult to fuse and gear up.
It's really trivial to play, just activate Tenavik, the clown, then the Duras sister and both instant damage.
I farmed some of the Space Battles that drop stuff common for Galaxy Events, to reload. Then, I decided to check out Fugitive Burnham for Items that dropped from Space Battles to Craft her Equipment. Replicated what I could not get that way. Got over 150,000 Points in the Event doing it that way.
Ended up with her Level 100, Fully Equipped:
~· Fly with the Subspace Eddies! ·~
To your first point, new players are behind and at tough odds for any event. To your second point, how angry would players who already bought Disco crew be if DB said they no longer provided bonus? How much in future sales would that cost them? I guess we will see one way or the other who is right and who is still cool but less right.