Can't give true feedback as this is the beta, and much is unknown, but from posts from @Shan and @SunshineRiker :
1) A month is too long - you need to find a balance between engagement and grinding, the latter eventually drives people away from the feature. May I suggest running it monthly, but with varying durations according to the rewards? Give players at least a week off. The beta also allows a bit of grace so you don't need to studiously collect everything every day and still complete the campaign, this is a really nice thing to do, and will hopefully follow through to the actual feature.
2) Cost for the premium is difficult, mainly as the concept of value changes with where you are in the game. When I first started a 10x premium was highly valued, now it's a bit of honour with the hope of a begold. So while the free level should be static, for the premium level either the cost needs to be variable accordingly to level in the game, or the rewards do.
Where a captain at VIP1 and level 20 may appreciate a new 5* card, someone at multiples of VIP14 and sat at level 90 is just going to see 550 honour. They may be more appreciative of a 5* citation or 10x Elusive Treasure, and thus more likely to open their wallet.
Now differing rewards/prices is always going to be divisive, but I'm sure a reasonable point can be found.
What is the intent?
As I said, thank you for the freebies, but what is the intent? Have metrics indicated a reduced amount of engagement with the dailies, or even the game in general? Now I don't expect a response to that question, but if that has been the driving force, it's a bit of a band aid and short-term at best.
If that is the reason, then there have been plenty of suggestions on the forum of varying quality from various posters, that may be worth throwing out an in-game survey with a few of them?
My only question is, is the premium track a one off purchase or is it a "have to buy every week". If it's a have to buy every week, I'm going to be disappointed. It's hard enough to get legendary crew as it is, with out adding yet another paywall.
My only question is, is the premium track a one off purchase or is it a "have to buy every week". If it's a have to buy every week, I'm going to be disappointed. It's hard enough to get legendary crew as it is, with out adding yet another paywall.
If my understanding is correct, the premium track is unlocked level by level as you progress, so to speak. For example, say you spend enough to unlock tier 12, as you progress through the top portion and unlock additional levels on the free track, you will also unlock the corresponding premium level up to and including level 12.
It also works in reverse. Say you have already progressed on the free track up to level 16 and then you purchase up to the level 12 level, you will get all the rewards on the premium track from levels 1 to 12.
My only question is, is the premium track a one off purchase or is it a "have to buy every week". If it's a have to buy every week, I'm going to be disappointed. It's hard enough to get legendary crew as it is, with out adding yet another paywall.
If my understanding is correct, the premium track is unlocked level by level as you progress, so to speak. For example, say you spend enough to unlock tier 12, as you progress through the top portion and unlock additional levels on the free track, you will also unlock the corresponding premium level up to and including level 12.
It also works in reverse. Say you have already progressed on the free track up to level 16 and then you purchase up to the level 12 level, you will get all the rewards on the premium track from levels 1 to 12.
At least that is how I understand it to work.
My understanding was it is a 1 time purchase that unlocks the rewards for the entire campaign.
They've even confirmed that it you unlock it mid campaign, you get all the previous rewards you've already completed.
My only question is, is the premium track a one off purchase or is it a "have to buy every week". If it's a have to buy every week, I'm going to be disappointed. It's hard enough to get legendary crew as it is, with out adding yet another paywall.
If my understanding is correct, the premium track is unlocked level by level as you progress, so to speak. For example, say you spend enough to unlock tier 12, as you progress through the top portion and unlock additional levels on the free track, you will also unlock the corresponding premium level up to and including level 12.
It also works in reverse. Say you have already progressed on the free track up to level 16 and then you purchase up to the level 12 level, you will get all the rewards on the premium track from levels 1 to 12.
At least that is how I understand it to work.
My understanding was it is a 1 time purchase that unlocks the rewards for the entire campaign.
They've even confirmed that it you unlock it mid campaign, you get all the previous rewards you've already completed.
That does make more sense. In my defense, I've slept 8 hours since Thursday afternoon
Well, it was too good to be true. This game rewarding players for actually playing the game instead to buy their way to the finish line? Preposterous, I say.
And you get exactly that with the first tier. And in this beta trial even Durango Troi. Still a great card. Concerning bases only slighty topped by the recent High Roller Sisko. Let´s not forget the 4/5 legendaries from the megas for just a little playtime. And the countless other cards and goodies DB gives out for free all the time.
If one thing is preposterous it is the fact that non paying players like you expect to have anything and everything for free. I know you don´t care overly about that, but if DB would do that this game would be dead already...
Spare me. Games like Warframe and League of Legends have literally 0 paywalls, their IPs were created from 0 and yet they make tons of money. Is all about business model and competence.
DB give us nothing. Is always an exchange.
Then go play those games and leave us be to play this one. If you can’t hang with the big dogs don’t try to be in the pack
You don't have to insult other players if you're a Ferengi.
If all but top bribers would leave your game would be dead within a month.
I like it so far. I like to run my game as efficiently as I can (setting timers for voyagers, shuttles, gauntlet, etc) and I always do my dailies. I'm a new player (highest card is Kol of Kor 4/5) and wouldn't mind paying for this if it were a monthly cost, much like the monthly DIL. The biggest determining factor is the cost. With games like this, I don't mind spending money as it is consistent and part of an overall plan (no splurging out of desperation or impulse)
Well, it was too good to be true. This game rewarding players for actually playing the game instead to buy their way to the finish line? Preposterous, I say.
And you get exactly that with the first tier. And in this beta trial even Durango Troi. Still a great card. Concerning bases only slighty topped by the recent High Roller Sisko. Let´s not forget the 4/5 legendaries from the megas for just a little playtime. And the countless other cards and goodies DB gives out for free all the time.
If one thing is preposterous it is the fact that non paying players like you expect to have anything and everything for free. I know you don´t care overly about that, but if DB would do that this game would be dead already...
Spare me. Games like Warframe and League of Legends have literally 0 paywalls, their IPs were created from 0 and yet they make tons of money. Is all about business model and competence.
DB give us nothing. Is always an exchange.
Then go play those games and leave us be to play this one. If you can’t hang with the big dogs don’t try to be in the pack
You don't have to insult other players if you're a Ferengi.
If all but top bribers would leave your game would be dead within a month.
When people complain about those who spend it just reminds me of a child in a store who throws a tantrum because they can’t have something.
I still think it should be the same as a monthly card cost. Random 1/5* (not a new one, I need to fuse up my legendaries) - I’ll spend £4 a month and work making sure to login and hit targets every day. If it’s a legendary I don’t want I’ll probably skip the month.
DB - any news on when campaigns start properly, or updates on cost/reward structures/duration?
Well, it was too good to be true. This game rewarding players for actually playing the game instead to buy their way to the finish line? Preposterous, I say.
And you get exactly that with the first tier. And in this beta trial even Durango Troi. Still a great card. Concerning bases only slighty topped by the recent High Roller Sisko. Let´s not forget the 4/5 legendaries from the megas for just a little playtime. And the countless other cards and goodies DB gives out for free all the time.
If one thing is preposterous it is the fact that non paying players like you expect to have anything and everything for free. I know you don´t care overly about that, but if DB would do that this game would be dead already...
Spare me. Games like Warframe and League of Legends have literally 0 paywalls, their IPs were created from 0 and yet they make tons of money. Is all about business model and competence.
DB give us nothing. Is always an exchange.
Then go play those games and leave us be to play this one. If you can’t hang with the big dogs don’t try to be in the pack
Butt hurt much? BIG DOGS! HA! This is supposed to be funny? Or threatening?
Instead to be this juvenile learn to deal with criticism to something you like. Pfff
IMHO, much of the feedback will be based on what level players are and how they currently play the game.
I hit all the dailies everyday so I like the added rewards for doing them.
I still have many 4* crew to acquire and/or finish and an even greater number of 5* crew I don't have, so the Campaign addition is a benefit to me.
That said, I can understand how higher level players with nearly all the crew acquired and finished and/or don’t do the daily tasks aren’t as keen on the idea.
My preference for the top rewards would be 4* & 5* citations. But, a mix of crew and citations would be acceptable to me.
Here’s some feedback. Idk if this has been mentioned or not yet, but I’m at work and don’t have time to sift through 12 pages of comments. I’ve realized that my vip 14 account will claim the last tiers considerably faster than my vip 1 account. I think it would be nice if there were tiers beyond the current last 2 for the top vip players to collect. Nothing game breaking, just something to keep everyone hitting all their dailies.
Well, it was too good to be true. This game rewarding players for actually playing the game instead to buy their way to the finish line? Preposterous, I say.
And you get exactly that with the first tier. And in this beta trial even Durango Troi. Still a great card. Concerning bases only slighty topped by the recent High Roller Sisko. Let´s not forget the 4/5 legendaries from the megas for just a little playtime. And the countless other cards and goodies DB gives out for free all the time.
If one thing is preposterous it is the fact that non paying players like you expect to have anything and everything for free. I know you don´t care overly about that, but if DB would do that this game would be dead already...
Spare me. Games like Warframe and League of Legends have literally 0 paywalls, their IPs were created from 0 and yet they make tons of money. Is all about business model and competence.
DB give us nothing. Is always an exchange.
Then go play those games and leave us be to play this one. If you can’t hang with the big dogs don’t try to be in the pack
Butt hurt much? BIG DOGS! HA! This is supposed to be funny? Or threatening?
Instead to be this juvenile learn to deal with criticism to something you like. Pfff[/
I’m not sorry that you can only get bleacher seats while others are right behind home plate.
To me it doesn't matter the length of the campaign. As a seasoned player, multiple times VIP 14 over, none of the stuff I've seen in the beta are worth paying except for the legendary crew. However, if DB picks the card, it's going to be a rare time I pay for it. The crew I don't have stars are on by choice. I'm not going to pay to waste a slot on Grilka, I don't have her for a reason.
Now, if DB gave us the choice of a citation at the end of the campaign, now we're talking.
@[KM] WOLF 359 - their objective is to make it harder for you to get what you want, so you bribe your way into it. By the way this is designed now it will drop the game's steam rating even more.
Noticed one small bug so far, and that was when I completed a daily task (in this instance the voyage dilemma) it neither registered as a daily reward or a campaign reward, and it was after daily restart. Wasn't a big issue because I did another dilemma 2hrs later and it worked fine, it happened Sunday morning GMT about an hour after daily reset if this helps. Not sure if it's both or just the daily reward that is the issue.
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Not sure if this has been mentioned but, I'm on the last tier and once my dailies are done i will be tantalisingly close on 175/200 - yeah making me feel like a nicotine deprived junkie, but if say I want to bite the bullet and end the campaign early thus enjoying the reward sooner this would happen.
What happens to the remaining purchased accolades do they carry over to the next campaign?
Couldn't or shouldn't the dilithium purchase be pro-rata of the ammount you actually need?
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I just won a crate reward. I got a 5 star Kirk's communicator. The 5 start item is wonderful. However, all of my Kirks are immortalized. How many Kirks need a 5 star communicator? Is this a useless item to me?
I just won a crate reward. I got a 5 star Kirk's communicator. The 5 start item is wonderful. However, all of my Kirks are immortalized. How many Kirks need a 5 star communicator? Is this a useless item to me?
A quick look on the wiki and it's useful for the following crew
Admiral Kirk (L.93)
Command Wrap Kirk (L.99)
Mirror Kirk (L.99)
Nexus Kirk (L.90)
Wrathful Khan (L.80)
I didn't see it on survivalist Kirk (he has a metron communicator instead) - I'd keep it till Tuesday offers to see if a Kirk deal comes up if not use it for rep fuel.
[was on Sabbatical/Hiatus] Currently a trialist at Galaxy SquadronSTAY SAFE and KBO
I just won a crate reward. I got a 5 star Kirk's communicator. The 5 start item is wonderful. However, all of my Kirks are immortalized. How many Kirks need a 5 star communicator? Is this a useless item to me?
A quick look on the wiki and it's useful for the following crew
Admiral Kirk (L.93)
Command Wrap Kirk (L.99)
Mirror Kirk (L.99)
Nexus Kirk (L.90)
Wrathful Khan (L.80)
I didn't see it on survivalist Kirk (he has a metron communicator instead) - I'd keep it till Tuesday offers to see if a Kirk deal comes up if not use it for rep fuel.
Something like this I don't mind keeping because it could be useful for a crew in the future. It's the super specific items that only one crew use that I replicate.
Comments
Nice! Thank you for the freebies.
Can't give true feedback as this is the beta, and much is unknown, but from posts from @Shan and @SunshineRiker :
1) A month is too long - you need to find a balance between engagement and grinding, the latter eventually drives people away from the feature. May I suggest running it monthly, but with varying durations according to the rewards? Give players at least a week off. The beta also allows a bit of grace so you don't need to studiously collect everything every day and still complete the campaign, this is a really nice thing to do, and will hopefully follow through to the actual feature.
2) Cost for the premium is difficult, mainly as the concept of value changes with where you are in the game. When I first started a 10x premium was highly valued, now it's a bit of honour with the hope of a begold. So while the free level should be static, for the premium level either the cost needs to be variable accordingly to level in the game, or the rewards do.
Where a captain at VIP1 and level 20 may appreciate a new 5* card, someone at multiples of VIP14 and sat at level 90 is just going to see 550 honour. They may be more appreciative of a 5* citation or 10x Elusive Treasure, and thus more likely to open their wallet.
Now differing rewards/prices is always going to be divisive, but I'm sure a reasonable point can be found.
What is the intent?
As I said, thank you for the freebies, but what is the intent? Have metrics indicated a reduced amount of engagement with the dailies, or even the game in general? Now I don't expect a response to that question, but if that has been the driving force, it's a bit of a band aid and short-term at best.
If that is the reason, then there have been plenty of suggestions on the forum of varying quality from various posters, that may be worth throwing out an in-game survey with a few of them?
If my understanding is correct, the premium track is unlocked level by level as you progress, so to speak. For example, say you spend enough to unlock tier 12, as you progress through the top portion and unlock additional levels on the free track, you will also unlock the corresponding premium level up to and including level 12.
It also works in reverse. Say you have already progressed on the free track up to level 16 and then you purchase up to the level 12 level, you will get all the rewards on the premium track from levels 1 to 12.
At least that is how I understand it to work.
My understanding was it is a 1 time purchase that unlocks the rewards for the entire campaign.
They've even confirmed that it you unlock it mid campaign, you get all the previous rewards you've already completed.
That does make more sense. In my defense, I've slept 8 hours since Thursday afternoon
You don't have to insult other players if you're a Ferengi.
If all but top bribers would leave your game would be dead within a month.
When people complain about those who spend it just reminds me of a child in a store who throws a tantrum because they can’t have something.
DB - any news on when campaigns start properly, or updates on cost/reward structures/duration?
Butt hurt much? BIG DOGS! HA! This is supposed to be funny? Or threatening?
Instead to be this juvenile learn to deal with criticism to something you like. Pfff
I hit all the dailies everyday so I like the added rewards for doing them.
I still have many 4* crew to acquire and/or finish and an even greater number of 5* crew I don't have, so the Campaign addition is a benefit to me.
That said, I can understand how higher level players with nearly all the crew acquired and finished and/or don’t do the daily tasks aren’t as keen on the idea.
My preference for the top rewards would be 4* & 5* citations. But, a mix of crew and citations would be acceptable to me.
Now, if DB gave us the choice of a citation at the end of the campaign, now we're talking.
That was satisfying.
Minor bug. I have collected the final reward, but it says I am on tier 19 with 200/200 Accolades needed to reach Tier 20
What happens to the remaining purchased accolades do they carry over to the next campaign?
Couldn't or shouldn't the dilithium purchase be pro-rata of the ammount you actually need?
A quick look on the wiki and it's useful for the following crew
Admiral Kirk (L.93)
Command Wrap Kirk (L.99)
Mirror Kirk (L.99)
Nexus Kirk (L.90)
Wrathful Khan (L.80)
I didn't see it on survivalist Kirk (he has a metron communicator instead) - I'd keep it till Tuesday offers to see if a Kirk deal comes up if not use it for rep fuel.
Something like this I don't mind keeping because it could be useful for a crew in the future. It's the super specific items that only one crew use that I replicate.
Some of the suggested price points might be a little high. Or something is......
You want engagement by more players? You don't price out the majority of the players.
I would suggest two Tiers of Monthly Cards:
Tier One = The current Card. 100 Dilithium a day for 30 days
Tier Two = 100 Dilithium a day plus the Campaign for a month
Tier One remains $3.99
Tier Two would be $7.99 - $9.99
Also, the amount of Chronies in the paid Tier needs to be 250 instead of 25. 25 is way too low. Especially in a cashy money Tier!!!
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The bashing in this thread is exactly why this is my last post in this Forum. Some of you really disappointed me the last couple of pages.........
A better option would be offering Citations since you likely have a pile of 5* crew you don't really care about getting extra stars on.